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A Study in Hypocrisy

  • Lord Orsam
  • Jul 20, 2024
  • 2 min read

We've got her, ladies and gentlemen.


Looking in the archives, I found the Chief Diary Defender, Caroline Anne Morris-Brown, saying in 2004: "if I had an 'unshakeable' belief in something, I would see very little point in joining in a debate about it."


Naturally I have the receipt, being this Casebook post dated on 4 July 2004:


"That's fine Harry, but if I had an 'unshakeable' belief in something, I would see very little point in joining in a debate about it. But each to his own I guess."

 

That's when Harry was saying that he believed that the initials on the watch weren't there when Albert Johnson purchased it (as to which date that was, there remains some uncertainty).


Her natural and only response, of course, was to attack the person who held such a belief, telling him, basically, that, if he believed this so strongly about the watch, what on earth was he doing posting about it?


It's a curious thing to say, and, to many normal people, might be regarded as bizarre, but these are her standards. If she believes something so strongly that such belief cannot be shaken, she wouldn't bother to engage in debate about it.


That's what she said anyway.


It's a real funny thing, though, because she's told us of her unshakeable belief that the diary was found under the floorboards of Battlecrease.

 

Hence, on 8 January 2018 (#325 of the Acquiring thread) she wrote:

 

'I have never been more sure, despite what David Orsam thinks he is bringing to the party, that the diary was found when the floorboards were lifted on March 9th 1992'. 

 

This followed on from her telling us on 7 August 2013 that she had 'absolutely no doubt' that the diary came out of Battlecrease House.  That sounds like 100% certainty to me!

 

Then, on 30 April 2015, we were expressly told by her:

 

 'I am 100% certain that Mike got involved by pure chance, and long after the diary had been written and placed in Battlecrease'.

 

So she has never been more sure of the diary having been found under the floorboards, something about which she has absolutely no doubt, with 100% certainty to boot.


How odd then that since then she has repeatedly engaged in debate about whether the diary was found under the floorboards of Battlecrease, something which, by her own standards, she would not have done.


In addition, she is on record as having told us of her unshakeable belief that Mike Barrett did not write the diary. Here are two examples from a two day period in 2005:




So please tell me: why does she constantly debate the issue of whether Mike wrote the diary?


Is it one rule for the Chief Diary Defender and another rule for anyone who disagrees with her?


She is allowed to debate the diary, despite her unshakeable beliefs, while others who are certain that the diary is a modern Barrett-created forgery are not. Is that where we are?


Surely not, for that would be shocking hypocrisy, wouldn't it?


LORD ORSAM 20 July 2024

 

 
 
 

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Jul 22, 2024

Beyond her tendency to call the kettle black, I've never understood Caroline Brown's thinking process.


Here is her latest:


"So assuming Maybrick didn't leave a confession of any kind when he could have done so, this alone would tend to clear him of being a narcissistic serial killer.


Catch 22 for anyone faking it, when the genuine article ought to have existed if Maybrick had been Jack?"


Uh, what???


How is this a 'Catch 22'?


The hoaxer presumably wants the reader to believe that the killer, James Maybrick, left a confession. According to her, that is a reasonable thing for narcissistic killer to do.


In which case there is no paradox.


It would only be a paradox or a Catch 22 if…


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Lord Orsam
Jul 25, 2024
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For the benefit of others, RJ and I have since spoken and he found my email. I can't say any more than this at the moment, being sworn to secrecy, but time will surely reveal all.

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megamex
Jul 21, 2024
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Maybe she is not that sure after all.


Maybe the process and the satisfaction she gets of being able to answering the Anti-posts, no matter how, gives her self-assurance that she must be right..


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The Sagar Saga: Finding the Missing Ling

In January 1905, former City detective inspector Robert Sagar, who had just retired, apparently gave interviews to reporters of four London newspapers in which he spoke of his knowledge of Jack the Ripper. 

Sagar 1.jpg

The articles containing these interviews, while very similar (indicating that they must have taken place at the same time) are all, nevertheless, a little bit different from each other and, in October 2020, Chris Phillips prepared a helpful comparison of the four reports featured side by side, which can be found here [Chris has now updated them to include the Evening News here].  He had, however, only located three reports from London newspapers, but was aware that there must have been a fourth report because such a report (different from the other three) was carried by some American newspapers, hence he included the Seattle Daily Times (of 4 February 1905) as his fourth report.

I have, however, now located the additional report in a London newspaper.  It was in the Evening News of Saturday, 7 January 1905.  It's not identical to the Seattle Daily Times report but it's close enough, especially in respect of the bit about Jack the Ripper, that, for comparison purposes, what Chris has labelled the Seattle Times report, can be regarded as the Evening News report.  There are, nevertheless, some important differences between the two which I will be discussing. 

So the four "interview" reports with Sagar that we have, are:

1. City Press of Saturday, 7 January, 1905.

2. Evening News of Saturday, 7 January, 1905.

3. Morning Leader of Monday, 9 January, 1905.

4. Daily News of Monday, 9 January, 1905 

A quick glance through these reports reveals that one of them is, curiously, very different to the others.

While the reports in the Evening News, Morning Leader and Daily News all contain quotes from Sagar, the City Press does not.  Its report is written purely in the third person, with no hint that its reporter had ever even spoken to the former detective.

The Morning Leader on the other hand tells us that, 'To a "Morning Leader" representative Mr. Sagar related some of his experiences'.  The Daily News is even more explicit as to when its reporter spoke to Sagar.  Hence, we are told that Sagar spoke to 'a representative of 'The Daily News on Saturday'.

That would seem to make sense.  All four reporters spoke to Robert Sagar on Saturday, 7 January 1905, right?

WRONG!

That's impossible. 

The City Press newspaper was published early on Saturday morning, so that it could not possibly have interviewed Sagar on Saturday and carried a report of the interview in its Saturday edition.  Here is the proof that the City Press was published on Saturday morning in January 1905:

Sagar 2.jpg

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