The Sagar Saga: Finding the Missing Link
In January 1905, former City detective inspector Robert Sagar, who had just retired, apparently gave interviews to reporters of four London newspapers in which he spoke of his knowledge of Jack the Ripper.
The articles containing these interviews, while very similar (indicating that they must have taken place at the same time) are all, nevertheless, a little bit different from each other and, in October 2020, Chris Phillips prepared a helpful comparison of the four reports on his medieval genealogy website. He had, however, only located three reports from London newspapers, but was aware that there must have been a fourth report because such a report (different from the other three) was carried by some American newspapers, hence he included the Seattle Daily Times (of 4 February 1905) as his fourth report.
I have, however, now located the additional report in a London newspaper. It was in the Evening News of Saturday, 7 January 1905. It's not identical to the Seattle Daily Times report but it's close enough, especially in respect of the bit about Jack the Ripper, that, for comparison purposes, what Chris has labelled the Seattle Times report, can be regarded as the Evening News report. There are, nevertheless, some important differences between the two which I will be discussing.
So the four "interview" reports with Sagar that we have, are:
1. City Press of Saturday, 7 January, 1905.
2. Evening News of Saturday, 7 January, 1905.
3. Morning Leader of Monday, 9 January, 1905.
4. Daily News of Monday, 9 January, 1905
A quick glance through these reports reveals that one of them is, curiously, very different to the others.
While the reports in the Evening News, Morning Leader and Daily News all contain quotes from Sagar, the City Press does not. Its report is written purely in the third person, with no hint that its reporter had ever even spoken to the former detective.
The Morning Leader on the other hand tells us that, 'To a "Morning Leader" representative Mr. Sagar related some of his experiences'. The Daily News is even more explicit as to when its reporter spoke to Sagar. Hence, we are told that Sagar spoke to 'a representative of 'The Daily News on Saturday'.
That would seem to make sense. All four reporters spoke to Robert Sagar on Saturday, 7 January 1905, right?
WRONG!
That's impossible.
The City Press newspaper was published early on Saturday morning, so that it could not possibly have interviewed Sagar on Saturday and carried a report of the interview in its Saturday edition. Here is the proof that the City Press was published on Saturday morning in January 1905:
'The City Press is published early every Wednesday and Saturday morning...'
That the City Press doesn't refer to having spoken to Sagar now starts to make sense. It never did. The information in its article which appeared on the Saturday morning must have come from a source (probably a document) earlier in the week, no later than Friday. While the term might not have been used in 1905, let's call this document a Press Release.
So let's say that on Friday, the City of London Police provided a Press Release to the City Press to enable that newspaper to publish an exclusive report about Sagar's career in its Saturday morning edition.
Knowing that its story must have been based on a Press Release, it is instructive to compare the part of its report about Sagar's early life with the way that same part of the story was reported by the Morning Leader. Let's look at that:
City Press
A Lancashire man by birth, he was educated at Whalley Grammar School,
Morning Leader
A Lancashire man by birth, he was educated at Whalley Grammar School,
City Press
and found himself, as quite a young man, in London, with the aims and aspirations of a medical student.
Morning Leader
and found himself in London, as a young man, with the aspirations of a medical student.
City Press
He became attached to St. Bartholomew's Hospital,
Morning Leader
He became attached to St. Bartholomew's Hospital
City Press
and intended prosecuting his studies there with all the vigour which he subsequently displayed in quite another and surprising direction. He took apartments in Bartholomew Close,
Morning Leader
and, in order to pursue his studies there, he took apartments in Bartholomew-close,
City Press
in the house of a celebrated City detective named Potts, who seems to have been a first edition of Sherlock Holmes.
Morning Leader
in the house of a celebrated City detective named Potts, who seems to have been a first edition of "Sherlock Holmes."
City Press
The mind and imagination of the young medical student became diverted from the study of surgery and medicine to the fascinating problem of criminology.
Morning Leader
The mind and imagination of the young medical student were diverted from the study of surgery to the fascinating problems of criminology.
City Press
and the varied means which a quick intelligence offered for the detection of crime.
Morning Leader
No equivalent
City Press
Hence it was that while engaged as a student at St. Bartholomew's, he became imbued with the instincts of a detective, and so successful was he in that direction that he appeared in a great number of prosecutions of criminals at the City Police Courts and at the Old Bailey.
Morning Leader
He had all the instincts of a detective, and so successful was he in that direction that, while a student in "Bart's," he appeared in a great number of prosecutions of criminals at the City police-courts and the Old Bailey.
City Press
Young Sagar's ability attracted the attention of the late Sir James Fraser, who was that that time the Commissioner of City Police, and he called for a special report with respect to the many cases in which the young medical student had been engaged. The report was of so complimentary a character that the Commissioner suggested that Mr. Sagar should join the police force. In the event of his declining to do so, a handsome cheque was ready as payment for his past assistance to the police.
Morning Leader
Young Sagar's ability attracted the attention of the then Commissioner of the City Police, Sir James Fraser, who suggested that Mr. Sagar should join the police force; offering, however, a handsome cheque as payment for his past services if he declined to do so.
City Press
Mr. Sagar thereupon resolved to abandon the dull routine of the medical profession in favour of the more exciting, but less remunerative, life of a detective.
Morning Leader
Mr. Sagar at once decided to abandon the medical profession for the more exciting, if less remunerative, life of a detective.
City Press
The circumstances of his joining the police force were, therefore, peculiar, but that is not the only unusual feature associated with it, as Detective-inspector Sagar is the only officer of the City of London Police who has never donned a uniform.
Morning Leader
Mr. Sagar was said to be the only officer in the City Police who had never donned a uniform.
I assume I have convinced you - and there really can't be any doubt about it - that the Morning Leader was using the exact same Press Release as had been provided to the City Press as its source for this entire part of its report.
This makes sense of the fact that, immediately after the last sentence about Sagar being said to be the only officer in the City Police who had never donned a uniform (at which point the newspaper hadn't claimed to have got any of this directly from Sager), the Morning Leader report THEN says: 'To a Morning Leader representative Mr. Sagar related some of his experiences.' It still doesn't quote Sagar for another eleven paragraphs and only quotes him for the first time in the article when referring to Jack the Ripper ("We had good reason to suspect a certain person...."). We'll come back to that but for the moment it is instructive to compare how the Daily News deals with Sagar's early life in its own report because, in this newspaper, the story WAS said to have come directly from Sagar and is told in the first person, as if the words came from Sagar's mouth. Here is the same comparison between the City Press and the Daily News:
City Press
A Lancashire man by birth, he was educated at Whalley Grammar School,
Daily News
"I am a Lancashire man by birth," he told a representative of "The Daily News" on Saturday, "and was educated at Whalley Grammar School.
City Press
and found himself, as quite a young man, in London, with the aims and aspirations of a medical student.
Daily News
When quite a lad I came to London with the intention of studying medicine.
City Press
He became attached to St. Bartholomew's Hospital,
Daily News
To that end I became attached to St. Bart's.
City Press
and intended prosecuting his studies there with all the vigour which he subsequently displayed in quite another and surprising direction. He took apartments in Bartholomew Close, in the house of a celebrated City detective named Potts, who seems to have been a first edition of Sherlock Holmes.
Daily News
As it happened I went to lodge at the house of a detective then living in Bartholomew-close.
City Press
The mind and imagination of the young medical student became diverted from the study of surgery and medicine to the fascinating problem of criminology.
Daily News
Before long I found that the study of criminology had more fascinations for me than medicine or surgery,
City Press
and the varied means which a quick intelligence offered for the detection of crime.
Daily News
No equivalent
City Press
Hence it was that while engaged as a student at St. Bartholomew's, he became imbued with the instincts of a detective, and so successful was he in that direction that he appeared in a great number of prosecutions of criminals at the City Police Courts and at the Old Bailey.
Daily News
and as a consequence I was more often to be found in the well at the Old Bailey than in the laboratory at St. Bart's.
City Press
Young Sagar's ability attracted the attention of the late Sir James Fraser, who was that that time the Commissioner of City Police, and he called for a special report with respect to the many cases in which the young medical student had been engaged. The report was of so complimentary a character that the Commissioner suggested that Mr. Sagar should join the police force. In the event of his declining to do so, a handsome cheque was ready as payment for his past assistance to the police.
Daily News
"Sir James Fraser, then Commissioner of Police, interested himself considerably in my work, and as the result of a special report he suggested that I should join the force.
City Press
Mr. Sagar thereupon resolved to abandon the dull routine of the medical profession in favour of the more exciting, but less remunerative, life of a detective.
Daily News
That is how I came to be a detective, although I had not previously belonged to the police.
City Press
The circumstances of his joining the police force were, therefore, peculiar, but that is not the only unusual feature associated with it, as Detective-inspector Sagar is the only officer of the City of London Police who has never donned a uniform.
Daily News
In that way my position was unique, as it was also from the fact that I am the only City detective who has never been in uniform.
You should now be satisfied that the Daily News has been rather naughty. It's clear that Sagar did not say to its representative on Saturday, "I am a Lancashire man by birth" but that what has happened is that its reporter has taken the Press Release and turned it from the third person into the first person, as if Sagar had actually said it. The same with everything in the entire section of the report, slightly rewritten. This makes it very dangerous to rely on anything that is directly attributed to Sagar in this report.
It may well be that representatives from the Evening News, Morning Leader and Daily News did speak to Sagar on Saturday because they include a fair amount of stuff not included in the City Press story. The City Press might have edited out parts from the Press Release which were included by the other three as if coming directly from Sagar's mouth and this is a possibility that we can't entirely ignore. One assumes that the City Press would have faithfully reproduced what it had been given either in whole or large part but this is by no means certain.
When it comes to the Evening News, incidentally, it has a less detailed account of Sagar's early life but what it does print is clearly sourced to the Press Release.
Hence it says (and you will recognize everything below, which I'm putting into a slightly different order to way it appears in the newspaper):
A Lancashire man, and educated at a grammar school in his native county, he first saw life and London as a Bart's medical student.
It happened that in the house near Smithfield in which young Sagar took lodgings there dwelt a sergeant detective in the City Police.
The detective and the student made friends. The thrill and excitement of the former's work infected the younger man. Crime investigation became his hobby, and during his five years at St Bartholomew's Hospital he enjoyed the extraordinary experience of helping to arrest over a hundred wrong-doers.
Astonished at the young man's remarkable record, Sir James invited him to give up his idea of becoming a doctor, and in 1880 he joined the City Detective Force.
A unique circumstance is attached to Inspector Sagar’s career. So far is known, he is the only police detective in the kingdom who has never worn the familiar blue uniform.
While the City Press doesn't mention Sagar's five years at St Bartholomew's, nor the fact that Sagar arrested over a hundred criminals during that time (merely referring to 'a great number of prosecutions of criminals'), both of which pieces of information are unique to the Evening News, there can't be any doubt that all four newspapers share a common source for Sagar's earlier life, being the Press Release.
After telling us that Sagar was the only detective who had never donned a uniform, the City Press report continues as follows:
"He joined the service in January, 1880, as an ordinary constable, and, as usual, was required to undergo a month's probation. After having completed half that time, he was selected by the late Sir James Fraser to make an investigation into a particularly intricate case of forgery, in the task of unravelling which several others had tried and failed. Mr. Sagar at once responded to the call, and proceeded into the country for the purpose of securing his quarry. Fortune favoured him, and he was successful in bringing the forger to justice, a sentence of twenty years' penal servitude..."
This then exposes the Daily News as continuing to lie to its readers because it's perfectly obvious that the Press Release was the source of this part of its story, as below (all of which can be found in the above paragraph from the City Press):
"I joined in January, 1880, on the usual terms of a month's probation. Fortune appeared to favour me during this period, for I was put in charge of a peculiarly intricate case of forgery which had baffled the ingenuity of my colleagues. In the end I succeeded and I ran my man [to] earth. He was sentenced to 20 years' penal servitude."
Once again, that's surely not come from Sagar. The Daily News has blatantly re-worded the Press Release as if having come directly from Sagar.
We then have a particularly troubling passage in the Daily News because we are told that Sagar said to its representative:
"In June, 1889, I was promoted to be detective-sergeant, and the following year to be detective-inspector. There's the whole story; what more could you want?"
While I can't, of course, say for certain that the information about Sagar's promotions was lifted from the Press Release, so that the statement attributed to Sagar, 'There's the whole story; what more could you want?' is a fabrication, it is to be noted that the City Press story (and thus the Press Release) includes the following:
"In December, 1888, he was promoted to the position of sergeant, there being no vacancy on the detective staff. The title was one of an honorary character, and it was conferred by the Commissioner in recognition of special services rendered. In the following June he was appointed detective-sergeant, and in November, 1890, he was promoted to the post of detective-inspector. "
All the information that the Daily News attributed directly to Sagar is right there. It's very suspicious and, given that we know for sure that the Daily News lied in respect of Sagar's early life, it seems likely that it also lied about him saying 'There's the whole story...'
Certainly, if there were three journalists listening to Sagar on the Saturday, none of the others reported him saying this. Neither the Morning Leader nor the Evening News include this information about Sagar's early police career.
The City Press report then tells a story about how Sagar received an injury to his leg from a pick [axe] which he ran into while chasing a thief: showing a tenacity and commitment to policing which was said to have struck the Commissioner. Neither the Morning Leader nor the Daily News bother to include this story in their reports but the Evening News does refer to it and, from the way it is written, seems to have summarized it directly from the Press Release (or alternatively, of course, from the published City Press newspaper report).
The City Press report then differs from all the other three reports by telling a story of how Sagar caught some thieves in Chiswell Street. It was probably a bit too dull of a story so wasn't included by the others.
The Morning Leader, however, does provide some information not in the City Press report, and was thus presumably not in the Press Release, which it attributes directly to Sagar who was said to have 'related some of his experiences'. Thus, it refers briefly to Sagar's arrest of Anthony Rowe in connection with the Great Fingall frauds. It's the only one of the four reports to refer to this. It's also the only one of the newspapers to mention, by name, the forger William Waiter. His case would appear to have been the 'intricate case of forgery' referred to by the City Press which several other detectives had tried and failed to solve because the Morning Leader says that 'the case had been unsuccessfully handled for some time' and tells us that Waiter was sentenced to 20 years penal servitude.
While it's entirely possible that Sager personally filled in the gaps from the Press Release, telling the Morning Leader representative the name of the criminal and the fact that he was Irish by birth, I am extremely suspicious that all this information had been included in the Press Release but had simply been edited out by the City Press.
It could be exactly the same regarding a story of how Sagar and another officer disguised themselves as artisans to arrest three men in relation to some drug store robberies. This isn't included in the City Press, nor does it feature in the other two newspapers, but I remain suspicious that it comes from the original Press Release, not from speaking to Sagar.
At the same time, the Morning Leader does provide one genuine sounding quote from Sager when, referring to the fact that Sagar has never met violence from criminals, Sagar is reported as saying: 'The professional thief will not do that sort of thing, if he is caught fair. He recognises that it is part of the game that his time will come'.
It is, however, a quote which is only included in the Morning Leader. If the representatives from the Daily News and Evening News were present when he said it, they didn't think it interesting enough to include in their articles.
The Morning Leader is also the only newspaper to tell the story of how a colleague kept some pickpockets at bay by making them think his pipe was a revolver.
At this point in the story of Sagar's career, the Evening News is the only newspaper of the four to recount a couple of stories whereby Sagar was assisted by a criminal gang member who protected him from an attack by another gang member, and whereby Sagar's son was protected from attack in Dorset Street by thieves who recognized the young man as Sagar's son (and this part of the report is not to be found in the Seattle Daily Times version of the article). Yet, what is curious about these stories is that it is made clear that they are NOT attributed to Sagar in the form of direct quotes and that the Evening News plainly has another documentary source from which it is quoting verbatim. You can see this visually from the fact that the story is told in smaller font as if quoting from something:
"To this day in those secret dens of the East End, where plots are planned and crimes coolly contemplated, Inspector Sagar is known as the "Doctor." And the “Doctor” is actually held in friendly esteem by some of those marauders in the night, as the following will prove.
Late one night the inspector was passing along Bishopsgate-street – suddenly a man – one of his former captures – rushed at him from across the road. Almost as suddenly another man sprang into sight and knocked the would be assailant down. The inspector afterwards learned that his protector belonged to a Chapel-street mob, which was opposed to the gang claiming the other individual.
In Dorset Street, Spitalfields, early one morning, the inspector’s eldest son was surrounded by thieves who were about to handle him roughly, when one exclaimed, “Why, it’s the Doctor’s son”. Instead of robbing him they gave him safe conduct to a main thoroughfare. A convict who had just completed five years borrowed a sovereign of the inspector to enable him to get to his home in Wales. Next morning by first post the money was returned with a note of thanks."
As we can see, the newspaper expressly flags that it is quoting from some kind of document by saying 'as the following will prove:-' and then using a smaller font. It's clearly not a quote from Sagar because it refers to 'the inspector' in the third person. Is the document that is being quoted from the Press Release? If so, it would tell us that the City Press excluded large chunks of it from its own report because none of this features in the City Press story.
We then reach a rather interesting part of these newspaper reports, as some of Sagar's major cases are discussed. Here the three newspapers which are supposed to have interviewed Sagar do diverge quite significantly from the City Press which only gives a vague summary of the fact that Sagar was 'instrumental in bringing into the dock at the Old Bailey a notorious gang of forgers...all of them foreigners'. It's the other newspapers who give us the details of these foreigners: the Barmashes, Schmidt and the American George Johnson.
With respect to George Johnson, the Evening News gives us reason to believe that it received information about him directly from Sagar and reverts to small font to give give us what appears to be an extensive quote from the former detective himself:
"The notorious Schmidt, who figured in the last Barmash case two years ago, is held by many to be the cleverest forger in the world. "For my part," says Inspector Sagar, "I would give the palm to the American, George Johnson, who, with another man, named Phillips, was in 1890 sentenced to seven years for forging letters of credit on a well-known City firm."
He was a man with the most polished manners, always dressed in the height of fashion, and was normally to be found in the Monico, the Criterion or the St James’s Restaurant, where he was known as the “Captain”.
He would never let even his confederates know where he lived. He would mostly meet them at railway stations, and if he thought he was shadowed would ask - say at Aldersgate-street - for a ticket for Praed-street, and then get out at King’s Cross. He had only to notice a face twice when on a journey to strike off in a new direction.
We traced him at last to a house in Bacon-street, Bethnal Green. While examining the premises I came upon a ball-head imbedded in the wainscotting on the stairs’ landing. I cut through the wood immediately below the ball-head, and heard something drop on the other side of the boards. That something proved to be a pile of the most perfect imitations of Bank of England notes I have seen. Schmidt was an excellent engraver but Johnson was better still.
When Johnson came out of prison he told the police he was going to turn over and address revival meetings."
This does look like something that came from Sagar himself, with the quote including the words 'For my part...' and then continuing into the smaller font, with the story told in the first person.
It is, however, very instructive to closely compare the quote attributed to Sagar in the Evening News about George Johnson with a similar but not identical quote in the Daily News. For in the Daily News we find:
"Well, Schmidt was very clever, but the smartest man I ever knew at that game was an American named Johnson, who, together with a man named Phillips, was awarded seven years for forging letters of credit on a City firm. Johnson was most polished in his manners, and always dressed in the height of fashion. He spent most of his time in swell West-End restaurants, and was generally known as the "Captain." He would never let even his best friends know where he lived, and would dodge in and out of stations on the Underground if he found that he was being watched.
'Well, Schmidt was very clever, but the smartest man I ever knew at that game was an American named Johnson, who, together with a man named Phillips, was awarded seven years for forging letters of credit on a City firm. Johnson was most polished in his manners, and always dressed in the height of fashion. He spent most of his time in swell West-End restaurants, and was generally known as the "Captain." He would never let even his best friends know where he lived, and would dodge in and out of stations on the Underground if he found that he was being watched.
"One day we tracked him down at a house in in Bethnal Green. Whilst examining the premises I came across the head of a wire nail which had been driven into the partition on the stair landing. I had almost cut away the wood underneath the nail when I heard something drop on the other side. This I afterwards found was a bundle of the finest imitations of Bank of England notes I have ever seen."'
This is all supposed to have been said by Sagar to the Daily News representative but to me it looks like the same quote which appears in the Evening News, re-worded. I mean, look at what we've got:
Evening News
The notorious Schmidt, who figured in the last Barmash case two years ago, is held by many to be the cleverest forger in the world.
Daily News
Well, Schmidt was very clever,
Evening News
For my part," says Inspector Sagar, "I would give the palm to the American, George Johnson,
Daily News
but the smartest man I ever knew at that game was an American named Johnson,
Evening News
who, with another man, named Phillips, was in 1890 sentenced to seven years for forging letters of credit on a well-known City firm."
Daily News
who, together with a man named Phillips, was awarded seven years for forging letters of credit on a City firm.
Evening News
He was a man with the most polished manners, always dressed in the height of fashion,
Daily News
Johnson was most polished in his manners, and always dressed in the height of fashion.
Evening News
and was normally to be found in the Monico, the Criterion or the St James’s Restaurant, where he was known as the “Captain”.
Daily News
He spent most of his time in swell West-End restaurants, and was generally known as the "Captain."
Evening News
He would never let even his confederates know where he lived. He would mostly meet them at railway stations, and if he thought he was shadowed would ask - say at Aldersgate-street - for a ticket for Praed-street, and then get out at King’s Cross. He had only to notice a face twice when on a journey to strike off in a new direction.
Daily News
He would never let even his best friends know where he lived, and would dodge in and out of stations on the Underground if he found that he was being watched.
Evening News
We traced him at last to a house in Bacon-street, Bethnal Green.
Daily News
"One day we tracked him down at a house in in Bethnal Green.
Evening News
While examining the premises I came upon a ball-head imbedded in the wainscotting on the stairs’ landing.
Daily News
Whilst examining the premises I came across the head of a wire nail which had been driven into the partition on the stair landing.
Evening News
I cut through the wood immediately below the ball-head, and heard something drop on the other side of the boards.
Daily News
I had almost cut away the wood underneath the nail when I heard something drop on the other side.
Evening News
That something proved to be a pile of the most perfect imitations of Bank of England notes I have seen.
Daily News
This I afterwards found was a bundle of the finest imitations of Bank of England notes I have ever seen."'
I don't know about you but I don't think for one second that this is the result of two separate interviews with Sagar. If that's the case, and there was just one interview with three reporters present, only one of the above can be an accurate reflection of what Sagar actually said. But the fact that one is so different from the other (eg. with 'ball head' replaced by 'head of a wire nail' and 'wainscotting' replaced by 'partition'), yet at the same time so similar, suggests (if we can rule out the notion that Monday's Daily News simply plagiarised from Saturday's Evening News) that both newspapers were taking the entire story from the Press Release and putting it into the first person as if Sagar was telling the story. This would again have to mean that the report in the City Press was a heavily edited version of a much longer Press Release but that doesn't seem to be impossible.
Some English forgers, the Devonports, are also mentioned in the newspaper reports, and it is likely that the newspapers added their own knowledge of this case, which had been widely reported three years earlier, because the Morning Leader refers to the forgers involvement in 'flash fivers' while the Evening News calls them 'forged fivers' , suggesting to me the addition of their own information to flesh out the story. The Evening News also mentions something unique to itself, namely that one of the group of forgers was paralyzed and was sentenced at the Old Bailey while lying on an ambulance, which might have been from the newspaper's own knowledge.
The Evening News and Morning Leader (but not the City Press and Daily News) also refer to Sagar's involvement in 'the Great Pearl Robbery case' with the Evening News saying that Sagar 'brought the beautiful Mrs. Osborne from Dover to the Guildhall dock' and the Morning Leader contenting itself by saying that Sagar 'arrested Mrs. Osborne at Dover'.
The City Press and the Morning Leader, however, but not the Evening News and Daily News, both tell of the fact that Sagar "personally conducted" a million pounds in bullion to the Bank of France in Paris. The fact that they both put the words "personally conducted" in quotation marks tells us that this is not a report of what someone has said but that they were both copying from the Press Release which, for some reason, also had those words in quotes.
"We now come on to the Jack the Ripper part of the story. The Press Release had clearly begun the subject by stating (as we find in the City Press) that Sagar's:
professional association with the terrible atrocities which were perpetrated some years ago in the East End by the so-styled "Jack-the Ripper" was a very close one. Indeed, Mr. Sagar knows as much about those crimes, which terrified the Metropolis, as any detective in London."
and that he:
"was deputed to represent the City police force in conference with the detective heads of the Metropolitan force nightly at Leman Street Police Station during the period covered by those ghastly murders."
Likewise, the Evening News tells us that:
"Inspector Sagar was the chief officer appointed to confer with the metropolitan police in the search for the terrible Whitechapel murderer. "
The Morning Leader says:
"Mr. Sagar represented the City Police at the nightly meetings which took place at Leman-st., Whitechapel, to consider what should be done to find the murderer.
The Daily News makes no mention of these meetings."
But the Morning Leader has some additional information, saying that, while on the hunt for Jack the Ripper, Sagar disguised himself as a labourer and 'was actually tracked himself by two police officers, who thought they had reason to regard him as a suspicious character.' This incident isn't mention by the City Press or the Daily News but the Evening News (in a passage omitted from the Seattle Daily Times version) says:
"One night Mr. Sagar was out looking for “Jack the Ripper.” He had dressed himself in pea-jacket, corduroy trousers, and a cap with ear-flaps. So well was he disguised that for two hours he was followed through East End courts and alleys by a couple of his own detectives, until they were astonished to see him enter the Old Jewry."
As it contains more detail, the Evening News seems to have been reporting the full version of this story, with the Morning Leader merely summarizing it.
Then the Morning Leader reveals something Sagar is supposed to have said about the Ripper:
"Asked about these mysterious crimes, Mr. Sagar said, despite the many stories which are told, the police never had any proof who committed them."
That's not mentioned by any of other newspapers but the Daily News has a unique question and answer moment with Sagar being asked what his most sensational case was and responding:
'Well I can hardly say. Possibly that series of tragedies which came to be known as the 'Jack the Ripper' murders'.
That in itself is kind of odd because we know that the Press Release had already stated that Sagar's professional association with 'the self-styled "Jack the Ripper"' was a very close one and that Sagar knew as much of those crimes, 'which terrified the Metropolis' as any detective in London. Strange then that Sagar hesitated when supposedly asked, in person, to describe his most sensational case, with the comment that he could hardly say.
What is then particularly interesting is that all three newspapers which purport to have interviewed Sagar tell a story not included in the City Press report about the Ripper coming close to capture by a police constable who saw a man of Jewish appearance leaving Mitre Square. Both the Evening News and Daily News quote Sagar directly while the Morning Leader summarizes his words. Thus:
Evening News
"We believe," he said, "that he came nearest to being captured after the Mitre-square murder in which the woman Kelly was the victim. She had been detained in Bishopsgate Police Station until 1 a.m. At 1:45 a. m. she was dead. A police officer met a well dressed man of Jewish appearance coming out of the court. Continuing on his patrol he came across Kelly’s body.
He blew his whistle, and set the other officers who rushed up in pursuit, the only thing to guide them being the sound of retreating footsteps. The sounds were followed to King's Block in the model dwellings in Stoney-lane, but the search got no further. On the wall was found scrawled in chalk, 'The Jews shall not be blamed for this.'"
Daily News
"As you know, the perpetrator of these outrages was never brought to justice, but I believe he came the nearest to being captured after the murder of the woman Kelly in Mitre-square. A police officer met a well-known man of Jewish appearance coming out of the court near the square, and a few moments after fell over the body. He blew his whistle, and other officers running up, they set off in pursuit of the man who had just left. The officers were wearing indiarubber boots, and the retreating footsteps of a man could be clearly heard. The sounds were followed to King's-block in the model dwellings in Stoney-lane, but we did not see the man again that night."
Morning Leader
"He believed the police were nearer to catching the "Ripper" on the occasion of the Mitre-st. murder than on any other. The woman Kelly, who was the victim, left Bishopsgate Police-station at 1 a.m. Three-quarters of an hour later she was found dead, and just before her body was discovered a police-constable met a man of Jewish appearance hurrying out of the court. "
We can see that while all three versions describe the suspect as a man of Jewish appearance, one says that he was "well-known", another that he was "well dressed" (while the third includes neither description). Unless Sagar went through the same story in almost word-for-word fashion with two different reporters at different times on the same day, telling one that the man was well known, the other that he was well dressed, it would seem that at least one of the descriptions can't be correct and can, presumably only be explained by the reporter's handwriting being misread by the newspapers sub-editors (or some such mistake). On the basis that only one can be correct, which was it? They carry rather different meanings. Well-known could either be famous in the area or well known to the police, the latter of which is something rather different. Well dressed obviously implies someone with money. But it's impossible at this distance to know what Sagar actually said.
The papers all then move on to the discovery of the apron following the Mitre Square murder and it is the City Press, working from the Press Release, which has the most detail about this:
There was a peculiar incident in connection with those tragedies which may have been forgotten. The apron belonging to the woman who was murdered in Mitre Square was thrown under a staircase in a common lodging house in Dorset Street, and someone - presumably the murderer - had written on the wall above it, "The Jewes are not the people that will be blamed for nothing." A police officer engaged in the case, fearing that the writing might lead to an onslaught upon the Jews in the neighbourhood, rubbed the writing from the wall, and all record of the implied accusation was lost; but the fact that such an ambiguous message was left is recorded among the archives at the Guildhall.
This is mentioned in the three other newspapers in much shortened form but the really curious thing is that while the Daily News precisely mirrors the version of the writing on the wall in the City Press, with the close-to-correct 'The Jewes are not the people that will not be blamed for nothing', we find that the Evening News and the Morning Leader both transcribe this as something totally different, with a different (correct) spelling of 'Jewes', namely:
'The Jews shall not be blamed for this'.
From the fact that the City Press was reporting from a press release, we can be sure that they didn't transcribe something that Sagar had said, and the Daily News was obviously also relying on that Press Release. So, unless Sagar did mention the writing on the wall while speaking to the reporters (but got it wrong), there must be some connection between the Evening News report and the report in the Morning Leader. We may even have to consider whether they were both written by the same person but in different ways for different newspapers. If, as the Daily News tells us, Sagar was speaking on the Saturday about his retirement, the report in the Evening News would have had to have been written quite fast to get it into that day's paper, while there would have been more time to polish the story for Monday's Morning Leader.
Indeed, if we go back to the way the Evening News report spoke of the Devenports being of 'forged fivers' fame, we find that the Morning Leader report seems to improve on that by referring to 'the medium of "flash fivers"'. Flash fivers had been all the rage in the 1902 newspapers:
'Forged fivers' while meaning the same thing, and also being a headline from 1902, isn't quite as snappy. Hence why I call it an improvement.
That said, there's no obvious similarity for the most part between the Evening News and Morning Leader stories which would lead one to conclude that they must have been written by the same person but we will see that there is one more possible indication.
We now come to the most critical part of the story. The identification of a possible suspect. As to this, it is quite striking to find that what appears to have been written in the prepared Press Release was no more than this:
The police realised, as also did the public, that the crimes were those of a madman, and suspicion fell upon a man, who, without doubt, was the murderer. Identification being impossible, he could not be charged. He was, however, placed in a lunatic asylum, and the series of atrocities came to an end.
On its own, this could certainly be Kosminski because it matches closely with the Anderson/MM/Swanson suspect.
The Daily News, once again, while providing a direct quote from Sagar, seems to mirror the press release because Sagar's words are:
'I feel sure we knew the man, but we could prove nothing. Eventually we got him incarcerated in a lunatic asylum, and the series of murders came to an end'.
Remember that we've already caught the Daily News lying about Sagar's words and to me this looks like another possible fabricated quote based on the Press Release.
Then we find once more a strange connection between the Evening News and the Morning Leader which both, alone, tell us that the suspect worked in Butcher's Row. But there are no less than FIVE significant differences between the two newspapers in this respect.
The first significant difference is that the Morning Leader provides a direct quote from Sagar whereas the Evening News only summarizes what is, remarkably, said to be the view not of Sagar, but of the City Police.
The Morning Leader reports Sagar as saying:
"We had good reason to suspect a certain man who worked in 'Butcher's-row,' Aldgate," he said, "and we watched him carefully. There was no doubt that this man was insane, and after a time his friends thought it advisable to have him removed to a private asylum. After he was removed there were no more Ripper atrocities."
When it comes to the Evening News, however, which gives similar information, not only is it not in the form of a quote by Sagar, but it's printed in such a way to make clear that it's not a quote. Look at this:
After an extended quote of Sagar in small font, wrapped in quotation marks, about how Sagar believed the Ripper was nearly caught after the Mitre Square murder, the report goes back into normal font with a mere statement in the passive tense that:
'The theory of the City police is that "Jack the Ripper" was a butcher, who worked in "Butcher's-row," Aldgate, and was partly insane. It is believed that he made his way to Australia and there died. Only then is Sagar quoted as saying that, 'The police are satisfied as to the identity of the man, but what became of him we don't know', which somehow seems to contradict the police's belief that he went to Australia.'
We can see that the other four key differences are:
1. The Morning Leader makes no mention of Sagar saying that Jack the Ripper was a butcher, only that he worked in Butcher's Row, whereas the Evening News says that the City police theory was that he was a butcher.
2. The Morning Leader says that the suspect was insane and and committed by friends to a private asylum whereas the Evening News makes no mention of him going to an asylum and says that he was only 'partly insane'.
3. The Evening News says that he went to Australia, whereas there is no mention of this in the Morning Leader (or elsewhere)
4. The Evening News says that the suspect died, but this isn't indicated in the Morning Leader (and its claim is then somewhat contradicted in its own story, by Sagar saying that the police didn't know what had happened to him).
Something is obviously very wrong here. One could just about accept that reasons of space or editing meant that the Morning Leader didn't include the belief that the Ripper was a butcher and that he was dead. But the Ripper either ended up in an asylum or in Australia. It's one or the other. Those two versions are entirely contradictory.
Given everything that we know about this supposed "interview" with Sagar, and the fact that none of this can be found in the Press Release and isn't mentioned in the Daily News story, I can't help thinking that this entire section about the Butcher's Row suspect needs to be treated with a great deal of caution. One simply doesn't know if the Evening News and Morning Leader were supplementing the story about Sagar's career with information about Jack the Ripper from other sources. The newspapers don't seem to have been beyond putting words into Sagar's mouth.
CONCLUSION
A lot of things about the Sagar "interview" are unclear and uncertain but there is one hard fact. This is that the City Press representative did not interview Sagar on Saturday (which is when the Daily News says he was interviewed by their representative). That would have been literally impossible. In fact, it seems entirely clear that the City Press did not interview Sagar at all, but based its report on some form of what I have described as a Press Release received during the week, prior to publication of the newspaper late on Friday night/early hours of Saturday morning.
As for the other three newspapers, it's hard to deny that they all must have made some use of the same Press Release, although, of course, by Saturday morning all of them could have been in possession of a copy of the City Press newspaper and plagiarised that report as source material. Given, however, that these papers were evidently provided with additional material either by the City of London Police or by Sagar himself, the plagiarism theory doesn't make sense. But it seems very unlikely that Sagar would have repeated verbatim during an interview what was stated in the Press Release, especially given the way the Morning Leader and Evening News both fail to report as quotes from Sagar those parts of his early life which match the City Press report.
Everything else is hard to fathom. Was Sagar interviewed on the Saturday by three reporters (or by two) or was it just one journalist who then wrote the story up in three different ways for three different newspapers in order to earn himself three fees? If by three journalists (or by two), was Sagar interviewed separately by each one, repeating what was essentially the same story verbatim to each of them, or did they all do one joint interview?
Noting the strange document that the Evening News reporter alone appears to have quoted from about a couple of incidents in Sagar's career involving threats against him and his son, does this mean that the Press Release given to the City Press was supplemented by additional material which was given to the other reporters on Saturday? Or was the Press Release a much longer document, with additional information included that was used by the other newspapers but omitted by the City Press?
Obviously I can't answer these questions but what I can say is that the Evening News report - which would have had to have been prepared very quickly if there was an interview on Saturday morning in order to get it into its paper which was printed early on Saturday afternoon - is very much an outlier. It is the only one of the four reports which tells us that the Jewish suspect was a well dressed butcher who ended up in Australia. For that reason, I think it needs to be treated with extreme caution. But it's the one report which is used to suggest that Sagar's suspect wasn't Kosminski. I think it's a mistake to use that report to form this conclusion.
We can see that the original and official story, which was presumably produced by the City of London Police, rather than by Sagar himself, was no more than that the police suspected an insane man who they could not charge because they didn't have enough evidence, and that when this man was placed in an asylum there were no more murders. That's it. And that's what the Daily News story, which expressly states that their representative spoke to Sagar on the Saturday, also tells us.
It's only the reports in the Evening News on Saturday and the Morning Leader on Monday which introduce Butcher's Row into the story. When the Evening News published that piece of information on Saturday, it appears to have been sourced to the City Police rather than directly to Sagar but, on the Monday, it was reported as a direct quote from Sagar but one which totally omitted the claim that the suspect was a butcher (who ended up in Australia) and which added in the claim that he was committed to a (private) asylum.
Given the inevitable time pressure of filing a report for a Saturday evening newspaper, presumably a handwritten one (from shorthand?), and how easy it would have been to assume that a man who worked in Butcher's Row was a butcher, it hardly seems beyond the bounds of possibility that the claim that the suspect was a butcher was an erroneous interpolation. One would also think that the Jewish suspect was probably said to have been "well known" (to the police) rather than well dressed but you can take your pick. Given that one report says, 'A police officer met a well dressed man of Jewish appearance coming out of the court' while the other says 'A police officer met a well-known man of Jewish appearance of Jewish appearance coming out of the court...' they must surely have been attempting to report the exact same sentence (either from a source document or from what Sagar said) so that one of them must contain an error. I personally suspect that it's the later report (i.e. the one published on the Monday) which is more likely to have been correct due to less time pressure to prepare the story for publication.
The short point is that I really don't think the Sagar reports can possibly be used to eliminate or discount Kosminski as the City of London Police suspect.
LORD ORSAM
14 April 2023
Re-published 13 June 2026
Breaking Point
At what point, while reading Christer Holmgren's new book, 'Cutting Point', does one reach breaking point?
Well it surely has to be around page 100. By this stage we've read all his arguments about the death of Mary Ann Nichols, and about Charles Lechmere's alleged attempt to hide his identity at the subsequent inquest, which are supposed to point to Lechmere as the murderer. These arguments are, of course, re-hashed from Mr Holmgren's years of posting on Casebook as 'Fisherman' while having apparently learnt little or nothing from the responses to his posts which should have shown him the error of his ways.
Holmgren, of course, knows all the objections to his theory and it's amusing to see him skip over them in his book but even funnier to observe the way he twists the facts and, above all, the way he twists the English language to its very breaking point.
EXSANGUINATION
Let's start with 'exsanguination'. We are introduced to this uncommon word out of the blue, without being told what it means at page 77/78, where it is said that, 'if many enough (sic) large vessels are cut open, there will be an exsanguination that involves all the blood that is positioned over the position of the cut'. By this, Holmgren appears to mean that there will be a loss of blood from over where the cut is (while blood positioned under the cut will remain in the body). So why doesn't he say this? Why not say 'there will be a loss of blood from the body involving all the blood that is positioned over the cut'. Why use the obscure word 'exsanguination'?
I'll tell you why I think he does it in a moment but the first thing to establish is whether 'exsanguination' is the correct word in this context. What does it actually mean?
Well, the Oxford English Dictionary gives the definition of exsanguinate as being:
'To drain of blood'
That doesn't seem to be what was happening to Mary Ann Nichols does it? After all, she wasn't being drained of blood at any time.
It's interesting to note, however, that the examples given by the OED relate to living individuals. Thus, from 1800, we have an example from the Medical & Physical Journal which stated:
'She appeared exsanguinated and very feeble'.
And one from 1849 in which W.S. Mayo wrote in 'Kaloolah: The Adventures of Jonathan Romer' of a man who had been shot that:
'He had been so nearly exsanguinated that his recovery was necessarily slow'.
So we can see that while the word is not being used in these examples to mean a literal draining of all blood from the body, it's not being used to refer to the loss of blood after death either.
The Oxford University Press online 'Oxford Languages' definition, in addition to defining 'exsanguination' as 'the action of draining a person, animal or organ of blood' provides one more meaning namely:
'severe loss of blood'
Is that what Holmgren means? Was he simply saying that after the cutting of a throat there will be a severe loss of blood involving all the blood positioned over the position of the cut? Again, if it was, why not say so?
The problem really arises when we look at the Wikipedia definition of 'exsanguination' for we are told there that it means 'the loss of blood to a degree sufficient to cause death'. There is a warning on the page about lack of verification and, certainly, this definition is not supported by the OED. But is this what Holmgren means by the word?
Well, it can't be because he is talking about loss of blood continuing AFTER the death of Nichols. He is certainly not talking about the loss of blood which caused her death.
What Holmgren WANTS to show is that the existence of blood supposedly coming out of the neck of Nichols' corpse, as seen by the police officers who found her body, means that Nichols must have been murdered very very recently, within minutes of the observation, in fact, so that the evidence of blood emanating from the body at this time points strongly to Lechmere as her murderer, given that he and Paul had discovered her body about four or five minutes before she was found by the police. That, says Holmgren, is about the extreme limit for when such blood could possibly have been seen coming from the body by any witness because, he claims, there shouldn't have been any blood left within the body (or relevant part of the body) by that time.
Going back to the meaning of 'exsanguination', from an actual medical journal (Baylor University Medical Center Proceedings) we find it stated by the author of a 2003 paper, 'Managing exsanguination: what we know about damage control/bailout is not enough' by Juan A. Asensio MD and others, that:
'Exsanguination awaits better definition, not only clinically but also physiologically and biochemically'.
It adds, however, that the lead author had described exsanguination as:
'the most extreme form of hemorrhage, with an initial blood loss of >40% and ongoing bleeding that, if not surgically controlled, will lead to death'.
That supports the Wiki use of the word in the sense of meaning bleeding to death, or potentially bleeding to death, which is not how Holmgren is using it.
So we come back to our question. Why on earth is Holmgren using such a vague and undefined word in his book when he could have written something much simpler? Was he just wanting to show off that he knows a long word?
Well I suggest it goes deeper than that.
Holmgren's entire case on the blood evidence pointing to Lechmere as the killer is based on a short exchange he had with the forensic pathologist Jason Payne James about seven years ago (which Holmgren posted for the first time on 18 February 2017, under pressure from a Forum member about what had been said) as follows:
Q. Just how quickly CAN a person with the kind of damage that Nichols had bleed out, if we have nothing that hinders the bloodflow, and if the victim is flat on level ground? Can a total desanguination take place in very few minutes in such a case.
A. Yes
Q. Do you know of any examples?
A. No
Q. Is it possible for such a person to bleed out completely and stop bleeding in three minutes? In five? In seven?
A. I guess blood may continue to flow for up to this amount of time, but the shorter periods are more likely to be more realistic.
The first thing that will be noticed there is that Holmgren's first question to Payne James was:
'Can a total desanguination take place in a very few minutes...?'
He had there incorrectly used the word 'desanguination' which appears to be a corruption of 'exsanguination' but he obviously meant so say 'exsanguination'. He was trying to impress the forensic pathologist with his incredible knowledge of forensic pathology but, in doing so, created horrible confusion and muddied waters.
His line of questioning was a disaster in any case. Holmgren wanted to be told that 'exsanguination' or 'bleeding out' could occur 'in very few minutes' and, while Payne James said it could, he didn't know of any examples!
But what was he agreeing to? An extreme form of hemorrhage leading to death in a few minutes? In other words, was he saying nothing more than that a person lying on flat ground could bleed to death in a few minutes? Possibly. After all, that is what the medical journal from 2003 tells us exsanguination means.
The other problem is that if Payne-James understood him to be referring to someone suffering from a severe blood loss due to their throat being cut, as opposed to someone who was strangled to death and then had their throat cut, it might well have affected the way he answered the question.
The first three questions and answers in the exchange got nowhere but I think we can now see why Holmgren uses 'exsanguination' in his book. He wants to link what Payne James says in his final answer to that word.
We can see that Holmgren himself regards 'bleeding out' as synonymous with 'exsanguination' although he never managed to confirm it with Payne James. And by 'bleeding out', what he really means is 'stop bleeding'. So, as we've seen, he asked Payne James:
Q. Is it possible for such a person to bleed out completely and stop bleeding in three minutes? In five? In seven?
And Payne James replied:
A. I guess blood may continue to flow for up to this amount of time, but the shorter periods are more likely to be more realistic.
The problem for Holmgren is that Payne James changed the definitions in his answer. Because, having been asked whether a person could bleed out and stop bleeding completely (a poorly worded question because normal bleeding is totally different to post-mortem bleeding, and Holmgren never clarified that he was asking about bleeding after death), the expert discarded the silly word 'bleeding' and used the word 'flow' without any qualification, which would normally indicate a liquid that is fast moving. Taken on its face, he said no more than that it is more realistic to say that blood could flow for three or five minutes than for seven minutes, so that blood would be expected to stop flowing after five minutes. He didn't, in other words, say what Holmgren wanted him to say, namely that no more blood would emanate from the body after this time. Whereas Holmgren had asked how long it would take for blood to stop emanating from a body completely, Payne James only seemed to want to talk about flowing.
OOZING
But what about oozing?
Because the only, and I must stress, the ONLY unambiguous word used in the evidence to describe the blood in the Nichols case is 'oozing'.
PC Neil stated clearly and unambiguously that, when he found the body of Nichols at about 3.45am on the morning of 31 August 1888, he:
'saw blood oozing from a wound in the throat'.
He chose 'oozing' not flowing. And ooze, according to the dictionaries, means a gentle, slow or gradual discharge or leak or a trickle.
Now, what's so amusing about Holmgren's book is that it avoids the word 'oozing' as much as possible. He has to acknowledge that Neil said it, but, having done so, it's never once mentioned again in the entire book!
By contrast, Holmgren, by my count, in his 12 page section dealing with the blood evidence, uses the word 'running' nineteen times and the word 'flow' or 'flowing' twenty-one times, which is ironic because it's not a word in the evidence.
Hilariously, on that one single occasion that Holmgren does mention oozing - in quotation marks as a quote from Neil, never as a word used by himself - he suggests (on page 79) that his reader may not even know what to make of that term!!! But I think that any English speaker knows exactly what 'oozing' means. And it's not what Holmgren would like it to mean.
RUNNING
What about 'running'?
Well, having stated clearly that the blood was 'oozing', PC Neil then used a different word to say that 'The blood was then running from the wound in her throat'.
The word 'running' here is ambiguous for it could be used if the blood had been fast flowing from the throat but it can obviously also be used if the blood was doing no more than oozing out. After all, one's nose can be running and it can mean nothing more than running very slowly. Given that PC Neil had already said that the blood was oozing from Nichols' throat, when he subsequently told the coroner that the blood was running from the wound in her throat (assuming the above quote is accurate), he must have meant that it was oozing from the wound in her throat. There is no reason to think he changed his evidence.
PC Mizen also used the word 'running' but in a more ambiguous way. He said:
'There was blood running from the throat towards the gutter'.
If someone had drawn a line in chalk on the ground from Nichols' throat to the gutter, one could have said that there was chalk line running from the throat to the gutter. It obviously wouldn't have meant that the chalk was physically running, or moving, just as Mizen seeing a line of blood from Nichols' throat to the gutter doesn't necessarily and unambiguously mean the blood was moving.
Let's also look at what Dr Llewellyn said on the same day of the inquest:
"On the right side of the face there is a bruise running along the lower part of the jaw."
"there was an incision about four inches long and running from a point immediately below the ear"
"Two or three inches from the left side was a wound running in a jagged manner."
"There were several incisions running across the abdomen"
"On the right side there were also three or four similar cuts running downwards."
The use of the word 'running' in other words doesn't necessarily involve any movement.
On the face of his statement, PC Mizen could simply have been describing two points: Point A, (being the neck) and point B (being the gutter) and saying that there was a line of blood (running) between point A and point B. It doesn't say anything about the speed or movement of the blood. More importantly, though, if he saw the blood at the same time as PC Neil, it doesn't change the fact that PC Neil had already told us about the speed and movement of the blood, namely that it was oozing. Given that HE saw it oozing, if Mizen did mean by the word 'running' that the blood was moving he could only have meant moving very slowly, i.e. NOT flowing.
And we must not forget the importance of this, namely that Payne James used the word 'flow' NOT ooze. Payne-James has never commented on how long he thinks blood could ooze from a neck wound after death nor has he said if he would be surprised if it continued to ooze for 20 minutes.
Interestingly, we find another example of 'running' being used by Inspector Reid when he gave evidence at the inquest of Alice McKenzie in July 1889. Reid said he was notified of the murder of McKenzie at 12.55am, which was 15 minutes after the police estimated she had been murdered (see report of Superintendent Arnold dated 17 July 1889). He said he then went Castle Alley and:
'I saw she had a cut on the left side of the throat, and there was a quantity of blood under the head which was running into the gutter' (Times, 19 July 1889, underlining added).
This is a problem for Holmgren. Reid was only notified of the murder fifteen minutes after it happened and, by the time he arrived on the scene, which must have been at least a few minutes later, he noted that there was blood 'running into the gutter'. If the blood was actually flowing, at whatever rate (including oozing), it proves that blood can still run from a body more than fifteen minutes after death.
If, on the other hand, Reid was merely talking about a line of blood that ran from the throat to the gutter which wasn't moving, it means that Mizen might well have meant the exact same thing when he spoke of the blood running.
We may also note that Dr Phillips said in his report that he arrived at Castle Alley at 1.10am and that: 'Blood poured out from the wound in the neck'. If he was recording what he saw at the murder scene (as one would naturally assume he was), it means we are being told of blood literally pouring from the wound of a dead woman at a time some 25 minutes after death. How does Holmgren explain it?
Before we leave the inquest evidence, there is one more expression used by Holmgren relating to the blood. On the basis of a newspaper report of the inquest in the Morning Advertiser, he claims on page 80 of his book that Mizen said that the blood was 'still running'. Hence this is how the Morning Advertiser reported that part of his testimony:
'He [PC Neil] said "Go for an ambulance" and I at once went to the station and returned with it. I assisted to remove the body. The blood appeared fresh, and was still running from the neck of the woman'.
What is so extraordinary about this is that, on page 81, despite having claimed that Mizen said the blood was 'still running' on the previous page (i.e. on page 80), Holmgren tells us that the report in the Morning Advertiser was wrong so that it follows that Mizen never said that the blood was 'still running'. He even tells us exactly what Mizen said which was that (as reported by the Echo):
'There was blood running from the throat to the gutter'.
As we can see, no use of the word 'still' there.
Holmgren explains that the other newspapers got confused about the timing, thinking that Mizen was speaking of the blood running after he had returned with the ambulance but, in fact, Holmgren tells us, Mizen was here being asked by the coroner about the time when he first arrived at the body. Thus, given the report in the Echo, it must have been a newspaper reporter who had added the word 'still' into Mizen's testimony to make it seem like the blood was 'still running' after a long period of time, when, in reality, he never used the word 'still' at all.
Although it's reasonable for Holmgren to make the argument that Mizen was referring to the time he first saw the body, not when he returned with the ambulance, it does suffer from an important weakness. For the question and answer provided in the Echo, which Holmgren thinks is accurate, is this:
The Coroner: Was there anyone else there then?
- No-one at all, Sir. There was blood running from the throat towards the gutter.
When Mizen said there was no-one else at all at the scene, he was definitely talking about the period when he first arrived in Bucks Row at about, or shortly after, 3.45am. This is clear because Mizen had just mentioned PC Neil sending him for the ambulance so that when the coroner asked him if 'anyone else' was there, he meant anyone other than PC Neil and, was referring to the time when Neil asked him to go for the ambulance. Mizen confirmed that it was just the two of them, an answer that could only possibly relate to his first appearance on the scene bearing in mind that plenty of people were crowded round the dead body by the time Mizen returned with the ambulance.
The problem for Holmgren is that Mizen's subsequent statement that, 'There was blood running from the throat towards the gutter' bears absolutely no relation to the question he'd just been asked by the coroner. Having told the coroner that there was no-one else in Bucks Row when he met up with PC Neil, why on earth would he then volunteer the information that the blood was running from the throat towards the gutter? It doesn't make any sense. It must be obvious, therefore, that Mizen was asked another question by someone, either the coroner or a juror, which he then answered. This makes it uncertain as to which period of time he was actually talking about. As we've seen, other newspapers suggest he was talking about the period of time when he returned with the ambulance so that the blood was 'still' running from the neck.
This might well have been true, especially if the body was being moved and Mizen saw blood running from her neck but it would be a disaster for Holmgren because it would mean that blood was still running from Nichols' neck after Mizen had returned with the ambulance, which must have been after 4am, and would thus contradict everything Holmgren is telling us about the inability of blood to run from a dead body for more than seven minutes.
The truth is that it's not at all impossible, or in any way surprising, for blood to run from a body, in the sense of oozing, for at least twenty minutes (which we shall come back to) but that would be the end of Holmgren's case against Lechmere based on the blood evidence so that, in Holmgren's view, Mizen must have been talking about the earlier period of time when the blood was running to the gutter.
Like I say, that's fine but then what Holmgren cannot legitimately do is claim, as he does, that Mizen used the expression 'still running'. Because THAT does imply movement, whereas the sentence which Holmgren himself agrees is correct, namely that the blood was running from the neck to the gutter is ambiguous as to whether there was any movement at all. Holmgren can't have it both ways. He can't rely on 'still running' while at the same time claiming that the newspapers who reported that quote were confused as to what Mizen was saying and about what time period it related to.
Yet, when he introduces Mizen's evidence he says on page 80:
'Mizen commented on the blood at the inquest. He said it was "still running" and "appeared fresh" and that it was in the process of coagulating in the pool.'
As we've seen, the 'still running' quote comes from the Morning Advertiser but it's only AFTER telling his reader that Mizen said the blood was still running that he challenges the Morning Advertiser account!!! By that time, he's put the expression 'still running' into the reader's head, as if it was what Mizen actually said. Any reader would have to be very astute to work out that there is a big question mark over whether Mizen really did say the blood was 'still running' as Holmgren has already claimed, without any qualification.
Now that we've seen the inquest evidence, let's return to what Payne James is supposed to have said about the time it would take for blood to stop oozing. Well, we've seen Payne James' actual words quoted above. He doesn't mention oozing! It's very amusing to see how Holmgren, who doesn't quote Payne James in his book, summarizes the expert's words. Holmgren says (on page 82):
'I inquired about how long time a woman with the damage that Nichols had would bleed from the neck before the blood had been emptied out and stopped running. I asked whether it could be a matter of perhaps three, five or seven minutes. Professor Payne-James's response was that all three suggestions could be per se correct, but he personally favoured three or five minutes as the likelier answer'.
When compared to what Holmgren actually asked and what Payne-James actually said in response, the misrepresentation of these questions and answers is so great as to be considered quite shocking.
The truth is that Holmgren did not ask Payne-James how long it would take before the blood had been 'emptied out and stopped running' from the hypothetical person (not woman) in question. What he did ask him was something vague and impenetrable about desanguination, which wasn't defined, and about 'bleed out' which also wasn't defined. At no time did Payne James comment (because he wasn't asked) as to how long it would take for blood to stop running from the body. What he actually directed his mind to was how long it would take for the 'flow' of blood to stop. But he wasn't asked the obvious question which is how long it would take for any blood to stop oozing out of the body after death. It just wasn't asked and thus wasn't answered.
This is really important because it's obvious, as a matter of pure mathematics, based on there being a finite amount of blood in a human body, that, if there is an initial gush and flow of blood from a body at the time of death, Holmgren's 'bleeding out' process is going to conclude sooner - and perhaps significantly sooner - than if the blood only oozes out from the start (as to which Payne James himself said in the 2014 documentary that, if Nichols had been strangled to death before her throat was cut, which he believed to be the case, there would have been 'no arterial spray', that it would have been a relatively 'bloodless' murder and that, as in any case where the carotid arteries are cut after death, the blood, 'may just leak out or dribble or drain out around the contours of the neck in this case over a period of minutes').
We can also see that Payne James was guessing. He admitted it! Thus, he began his answer with the words, 'I guess...' and spoke of how blood 'may' continue to flow for up to five minutes. In his book, Holmgren totally omits to reveal to his readers that Payne James was doing no more than guessing as to how long blood could flow.
This is also really important because either Payne James was speaking of personal experience or he was basing his answer on data provided by others. If the latter, why hasn't he provided any source references? If the former, one has to ask how much personal experience he can possibly have had of seeing at first hand a bleeding neck wound of an individual who has died a sudden and violent death (as a result of that wound) within 15 or 20 minutes of their death? In virtually all cases, unless by some miracle he was very close by at the time of death, it's going to have taken him at least an hour to get to the body, isn't it? So what can his actual personal experience of this subject be?
Holmgren also claims that Payne James said that he 'personally favoured' three or five minutes when he did not, in fact, use that expression. He said, or appeared to say, that these shorter time periods were 'more realistic'. But the key thing is that Payne James was talking about blood flowing. He wasn't talking about the time it would take for the blood to empty out or stop running completely. He used the word flow. But Holmgren fails to use the word 'flow' in the summary in his book, thus clearly and deliberately misrepresenting what he had been told by the expert.
The only thing Payne James should have been talking about was the time it would take for blood to ooze.
And here, hilariously, Holmgren is forced to admit that Payne-James (to the extent that he might have been saying blood would stop oozing after five minutes, which, of course, he wasn't) was contradicted by his own Swedish expert forensic pathologist, Professor Ingemar Thiblin!!! For, on page 88 of his book, Holmgren is forced to admit that Thiblin told him that there is 'not much empirical data to go on' as to how long 'a seeping bleeding' could go on for (and, again, the word 'oozing' is avoided for some reason) but that it could possibly be 'a process' of 'ten to fifteen minutes'.
So now the failure of Holmgren's questioning of Payne James is even more apparent. For he only asked him about seven minutes. He asked nothing about ten or fifteen minutes and Payne-James said nothing about ten or fifteen minutes, only saying that he guessed that blood may continue to flow for up to seven minutes. We have no idea if Payne James himself would have said it was realistic for blood to ooze (or seep) for up to fifteen or even twenty minutes.
Once again, though, with Thiblin, not a single quote from the expert is provided and everything is filtered through Holmgren's own interpretation. Apparently, Thiblin 'very much agreed' with Payne-James that 'five minutes of bleeding' was a 'more likely' suggestion than seven minutes of bleeding and I personally would love to read the actual words of Thiblin saying this because I find it very difficult to believe that he said it. Anything filtered through Holmgren on this subject cannot be considered to be reliable bearing in mind the proven way that he has subtly changed what Payne-James actually said.
But Holmgren gets carried off into ecstasy by the idea of five minutes of 'bleeding' being the upper realistic limit, claiming that, 'Two professors in forensic medicine, renowned specialists in the field, agree that as we enter the seven-minute mark of continued bleeding, we have entered a time where they are both are (sic) inclined to think it likely that the bleeding should have stopped'.
This is just completely untrue. Payne-James, whose actual words we know, never said anything of the sort for, when we read his own words, he was only speaking of blood flow. He did not say anything about oozing and, thus, cannot be regarded as having said that 'bleeding' (an inaccurate term for a period after death, because only living persons truly bleed) should have stopped before seven minutes. Crikey, he didn't even say that blood flow should have stopped AFTER seven minutes, merely that he regarded it as more realistic that it would continue for five minutes rather than seven minutes, while admitting that it could continue for up to seven minutes. Whether, in his view, the blood could continue to flow after seven minutes post-mortem is something we don't know for sure. And we certainly don't know if he believes oozing could continue after seven minutes or not. He said nothing on the subject.
As for Thiblin, no quote from the man has ever been provided and Holmgren has already admitted that he was told by him that blood could seep for ten to fifteen minutes. On that basis, how could Thiblin possibly have said it was 'likely that the bleeding should have stopped' after seven minutes? The two statements would be wholly inconsistent and, in any event, no expert would ever say any such thing. For that reason, Thiblin clearly said nothing of the sort. It's just Holmgren's ludicrous interpretation. If Thiblin said that he thought it was more likely that seeping would go on for five minutes than fifteen minutes, this is still a million miles away from saying that it should stop after five minutes. I mean, if it can go on for fifteen minutes, as Thiblin appears to have said, it's a complete nonsense for his view to be summarized as that it should have stopped after five! Pure and utter nonsense.
And even if Payne-James was speaking of blood oozing rather than flowing, exactly the same would be true of him; because in saying that seven minutes of oozing blood was 'more realistic' than three or five minutes (if that's what he did say) he hasn't said that blood should stop oozing after five minutes. He wasn't even asked if he could rule out blood oozing after ten or fifteen minutes.
This is all a complete disaster for Holmgren. Because anything over nine minutes of oozing time - which is CLEARLY possible - means that the killer could have been Lechmere or it could have been someone else. In other words, we have got absolutely nowhere. Holmgren's nonsensical and ludicrous summary of the experts' findings on page 89 that, 'Charles Lechmere is very much likelier to have been the cutter than another killer preceding him in Bucks Row' and his outrageous conclusion that, 'the bleeding times...leave us with only one truly reasonable candidate' simply crumble into dust.
I might add that I say all this as someone who was once interested in whether it was possible to establish the time of Nichols' death from the fact that blood was oozing from her neck when PC Neil discovered her body at about 3.45am. I raised the subject in the Forum but Trevor Marriott then went off and asked his expert forensic pathologist contact, Dr Michael Biggs, if it was possible to estimate time of death from this oozing. Dr Biggs categorically stated that it was not and that he had personally seen blood leak from a body for SOME HOURS after death. For that reason, I gave up the entire idea. It was the only rational thing to do.
Furthermore, in respect of oozing, Dr Biggs said:
"I think that, though it might seem unlikely for a significant quantity of blood to be flowing out of a body several minutes after death, it would certainly be possible for blood still to be dripping / oozing out of a body 20 mins later."
This answer is not only entirely consistent with what Payne-James said, namely that blood would only FLOW for a few minutes after death, but it means that one expert, at least, would not be at all surprised for blood still to be oozing from a wound 20 minutes after death. Astonishingly, Holmgren has never asked his own two experts if they would be surprised to find this happening. If they would not, it's game over for his entire attempt to pin the murder on Lechmere on the basis of the oozing blood. The same is true if blood could still be oozing from a wound 15 minutes after death (which even one of Holmgren's own experts agreed is possible!) or even 10 minutes after death.
Holmgren's attempt to try and fix the murder on Lechmere to the exclusion of anyone else from the fact that blood was oozing out of Nichols' neck when PC Neil discovered her body (which might have been no more than five minutes after Lechmere had first found it, and no more than six or seven minutes after her death) is ludicrous. It's notable that he asks neither expert to comment on such a suggestion. I have no doubt that both of them would have said it wasn't realistic, to use Payne-James' expression.
When I was posting on the forum I repeatedly asked Holmgren this question:
'Given that PC Neil said in his sworn testimony that he saw blood oozing from the throat wound of Nichols, could she quite easily, and very possibly, have been murdered 20 minutes before the time he saw this oozing?'
One would not be allowed to repeatedly ask an author such a question on the Forum today because, under the new (secret) rules, it would be regarded as harassment and badgering. But, despite me pressing Holmgren repeatedly to answer this simple question, he never did. He dodged and dodged and dodged. At one point, hilariously, he changed the word 'oozing' in my question to 'running' and it was only then that he felt able to answer it. But I didn't ask that question. I asked him about 'oozing' and he simply couldn't answer because Payne-James said nothing about the time it can take for blood to continue to ooze out of a wound after death.
Incredibly, with his Swedish expert, he still doesn't appear to have asked about oozing. The word 'seeping' appears to have been used but that wasn't a word used in the evidence. Even when writing a book, Holmgren continues to stick his head in the sand and avoid any kind of focus on blood oozing. While it might help him unfairly pin the murder of Nichols onto Lechmere, it doesn't get us anywhere near the truth.
As far as I'm concerned, Dr Biggs answered the question that oozing can continue for 20 minutes after death and that a forensic pathologist would in no way be surprised to find it happening. Holmgren knows exactly what Dr Biggs said and has been unable to find an expert to contradict it. It's now officially the end of the line for the blood evidence pointing to Lechmere's guilt.
ABOUT
Our next word is 'about'. Holmgren doesn't seem to know what it means. Here's the Oxford English Dictionary definition:
'Expressing approximation. Nearly, approximately, more or less.'
You will see that any element of exactitude is missing from this definition but Holmgren seems to think it should be there.
For, in attempting to bolster his attempt to pin the murder of Nichols on Lechmere, Holmgren claims on page 92 of his book:
'Most papers speak of Lechmere saying that he left home at 3:30, but the time 3:20 is also mentioned in one paper'.
That is false. Most papers speak of Lechmere saying that he left home at about 3:30. That is very different and makes a big difference, especially in circumstances where Holmgren's calculations about the time available to Lechmere to commit the murder are down to the minute.
But Holmgren goes on to say that Lechmere told the inquest that 'he left at 3:30 on the murder morning'. He did not. He said he left at ABOUT that time.
Holmgren has been discussing this subject for years and he undoubtedly knows that one criticism that has been made of his theory is that Lechmere didn't say he left home 'at 3.30' he said he left home at 'about 3.30'.
Indeed, I personally raised it with him on the Forum. Yet, despite this, astonishingly, when writing his book, he fails to inform his readers of this, but bamboozles them into thinking that Lechmere gave a precise and exact time when he left his house that morning, which can be relied upon. And he doesn't just do it once, he does it repeatedly (e.g. on page 96 he writes that: 'If Lechmere left home at 3.30 - as he himself claimed he did - he could have been in place at the murder scene for nine minutes when Robert Paul arrived there').
Holmgren then tells us that his own walk from Lechmere's home at 22 Doveton Street to the murder site took him seven minutes and seven seconds. He doesn't reveal what route he took (there are two possible routes) and when I asked him on the Forum he simply and remarkably refused to tell me, but my timing of the quickest route in 2014 was seven minutes and thirty five seconds at what I would regard as normal walking speed.
Holmgren does confirm that:
'the walk between the two addresses is not the same today as it would have been back in 1888'.
This contrasts to the voiceover in the 2014 documentary on Lechmere, in which Holmgren participated, which stated:
'The street layout is the same now as it was over a century ago'.
Amusingly, Holmgren tells us that 'Author Michael Connor' suggests that the same walk would have taken only six minutes in 1888 but what that can possibly be based on, other than guesswork or imagination, is not stated. In any case, if Holmgren is referring to an article on Casebook by Michael Connor Did the Ripper work for Pickfords? then what he says isn't correct. Connor stated in that article:
'Walking time between Doveton Street and the Bucks Row murder site today is approximately six minutes - it would have been quicker in 1888. Even on the basis of this modern timing, if he left home that morning about 3.30 then he would have been in Buck's Row about 3.36.'
So much for Conner saying it would have taken six minutes in 1888! He's saying it would be six minutes today!! So much for Connor's credibility. Even Holmgren tells us that the walk today, at normal walking speed, is at least seven minutes. It looks like Connor was simply guessing as to the walking time. He doesn't say he timed the walk himself. He provides absolutely no reason to think the walk would have been faster in 1888. In my view, Bath Street was further to the north than the current path beneath the modern supermarket leading into Brady street, requiring a diagonal walk across Brady Street into Bucks Row, something which could only have added to the walking time.
Anyway, working on his timing of 7:07 minutes, Holmgren tells us that Lechmere should have been in Bucks Row at 3:37 'if he left at 3:30'. Well sure, that's the maths, but there's no evidence that Lechmere did leave his home at 3.30 or even claimed that he did. He said he left his home at 'about' 3.30. If he left his house only a few minutes after 3.30, he would have arrived at Bucks Row at or shortly after 3:40am.
As it happens, the lead investigating officer of the Nichols murder, Inspector Abberline, wrote in his report of 19 September 1888 that the discovery of the body of Nichols was made 'about 3.40am 31st Ult'. In other words, Lechmere's evidence that he left his house at about 3.30am, perfectly satisfied Inspector Abberline who had concluded that he arrived at Bucks Row at about 3.40am, meaning that all the timings in the case fit perfectly.
Now, in this respect, we come to one of Holmgren's most disingenuous attempts at trying to pin the murder on Cross. For, on page 90 of his book, he deliberately implies for the unwary reader that Inspector Abberline's report was written by Chief Inspector Swanson who then changed his mind in a later report. Thus, Holmgren says:
'Two police reports signed by Donald Swanson, the man who was made responsible for collecting and sorting all information pertaining to the Ripper case by Robert Anderson [Lord Orsam note: it was actually Sir Charles Warren] concern themselves to a significant degree with the Nichols case'.
Holmgren then notes that the first report states that Lechmere met Paul at 3.40am but that, in the second report, the time 'is amended to 3:45' and thus, says Holmgren, 'it would seem that the police ultimately settled for Paul's timing being correct' and, indeed, he claims that the police 'ultimately rejected' the 3.40am timing.
We can see that Holmgren deliberately withholds from his readers the crucial fact that the first report was written by Inspector Abberline, whose report was merely countersigned as a formality by both Chief Inspector Swanson and Superintendent Shore before being forwarded to the Assistant Commissioner at Scotland Yard. But the author was Abberline. The report is in his handwriting.
Nothing can be more nonsensical than for Holmgren to say that the time of 3.40 was 'amended' by Swanson so that it shows that the police 'ultimately settled' for a time of 3.45 and 'rejected' the 3.40 timing. Swanson's report of 19 October for the Home Office was a big picture report and he used broad brush timings. This is clear from other timings in his report of the Chapman case written on the same date which don't fit precisely with the known evidence.
For example, Swanson said in his report that the body of Chapman was discovered by John Davis at 6am whereas, in his evidence, Davis said no more than that he woke up at 5.45 and discovered the body 'soon afterwards' (after having first drunk a cup of tea). Swanson also wrote that Chapman was last seen alive by John Donovan at 2am whereas Donovan said in his inquest evidence that he last saw her at 'about ten minutes to two a.m.' according to the report in the Daily Telegraph. In respect of John Richardson's evidence, Swanson said that he sat on the steps of 29 Hanbury Street at 4.45am whereas, in his inquest evidence, Richardson didn't give a precise time for this, only referring to a time of 'between a quarter and twenty minutes to 5' according to the report in the Times or 'between a quarter and ten minutes to five' according to the Daily Chronicle or 'between 4.45am and 4.50am' according to the Daily Telegraph or 'about 4:40am or 4:50am' according to the report in Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper. Swanson, incidentally, said in his report that Richardson was 'of 29 Hanbury Street', seemingly unaware that he didn't live at that address but resided at 2 John Street. He wrote that Albert Cadosch went into the yard of his house at 5.25am whereas Cadosch said that he got up at 5.15 and went out into the yard of his house, returning 'three or four minutes afterwards' according to the report in the Times, or at 'about twenty minutes past five' according to the Daily Chronicle. In respect of Mrs Long's evidence that she saw a man and a woman talking, Swanson noted this occurred at 5.30am whereas Mrs Long herself said this happened at 'about 5.30'. She did also say that she heard a church clock strike 5.30 'just before I got to the street' but this suggests that what she heard happened shortly after 5.30.
Exactly the same is true in the case of the Stride murder in which Swanson gave precise times in his report where only approximate times were known. Hence, for example, he said that PC Smith saw a man and woman in Berner Street at 12.35am whereas, in his inquest evidence, as reported by the Times, Smith said only that he was in Berner Street 'about half past 12 or 12.35'.
When we look at Swanson's report of the Tabram murder, we find him saying that John Reeves found the body of a woman the landing of George Yard at '4.50am 7th Augt. 1888'. Yet, in his inquest evidence on 9 August 1888, Reeves stated that 'he left home at a quarter to 5 to seek for work' and that, when he reached the first floor landing of his apartment building, he found deceased lying on her back in a pool of blood (Times 10 August 1888). Are we supposed to believe that Swanson carefully calculated that it took Reeves a full five minutes to walk from his front door at 37 George Yard Buildings down to the first floor landing of George Yard Buildings? I don't think so! It looks like he simply took the time of 4.50am from Inspector Ellisdon's report of 10 August 1888. Presumably, though, Holmgren would tell us that there is a mysterious gap of five minutes between Reeves leaving his home and him discovering the body within the same apartment building!
In the Nichols case, there is no reason to think that Swanson gave any thought to a particular timing, just like he obviously didn't given any particular thought to other timings in his reports. There was no reason for him to do so. None of them seemed to be critical. 3.45 was the approximate time spoken of by all witnesses, including Mizen and Neil, as to when everything happened in and around Bucks Row. Swanson simply commenced his report by saying: '3.45am 31st Augst. The body of a woman was found lying on the footway in Bucks Row, Whitechapel, by Charles Cross & Robert Paul carmen on their way to work'. It obviously wasn't intended to be an exact time, just like his other times weren't intended to be exact. It certainly wasn't intended to amend any times from other reports!
What is so interesting about Inspector Abberline's report is that none of the witnesses mentioned 3.40 am at the inquest, so it looks as if Abberline actually did give the matter some thought and concluded that Neil's timing of about 3.45 when he discovered the body was likely to be correct so that Lechmere and Paul must have arrived in Bucks Row about five minutes prior to this. It makes perfect sense for him to have made this calculation, bearing in mind that Mizen corroborated Neil's timing by saying that he was told about the body in Bucks Row at about a quarter to four, while he was in the process of knocking up (and thus, considering that he was getting people out of bed at an ungodly hour in the morning, must have had a reasonably good idea of what the time was).
The coroner, when summing up, said that the discovery of the body 'cannot have been far from 3.45' which is another way of saying 'about' 3.45 and is consistent with a discovery at about 3.40, which is not far from 3.45.
Anyone with any sense will know that Holmgren is embarking on a fools errand here by trying to pin down exact times in circumstances where no-one was wearing a watch, and any clocks might have been running fast or slow. All times can only have been estimated. Not a single witness relating to the Nichols murder was even asked how they fixed the time.
Nevertheless, Holmgren relies heavily on the timings of two other witnesses, Robert Paul and Dr Llewellyn.
In respect of Paul, the evidence he gave at the inquest was nothing more than that he left his house at 'about' 3.45 (according to the report in the Times) or 'just before a quarter to four' (according to the report in the Morning Advertiser). But that can very easily encompass 3.40am. So, with the actual inquest evidence in the case not being terribly helpful, Holmgren relies instead on a newspaper report in which Paul apparently stated to a reporter for Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper that it was 'exactly' 3.45 that he walked into Bucks Row. At first blush this might seem impressive, even though Paul didn't say how he fixed the time, but what Holmgren doesn't inform his readers is that what Paul was angrily responding to was a newspaper report that it was THE POLICE who had found the body of Nichols at 3.45am. What he was trying to say was that this was wrong and that HE and another carman (Lechmere) were the first to discover the body at that time. Indeed, Paul would have been under the impression that the only reason the police knew about the body was because he and the other carman had informed Mizen about it.
The short point is that we cannot possibly rely on Paul's timing in these circumstances because he was trying to argue a point. He was trying to say that it couldn't have been the police who found the body at 3.45am because he did. If we were to assume that he and Lechmere discovered the body at 3.42 or 3.43 and that Neil stumbled across it at 3.47 or 3.48 then both men would be entitled to say they discovered the body at 3.45 and Paul would very likely have said that he discovered it at 'exactly' 3.45, something which would have been impossible for him to have said with certainty unless he had checked the time on a timepiece which was known to be 100% accurate. But he never said this and he certainly never said he heard any bells ringing or anything like that so, even if accurately reported, his comments to a newspaper reporter - which were not repeated in his sworn evidence at the inquest - cannot possibly be taken as gospel.
We may also note that in another context, on page 66, Holmgren warns us that the Lloyd's article 'contains material that needs to be treated with caution' but when he deals with this timing point from the same article on page 89 he doesn't treat it with any caution, accepting that this part of the article is 100% accurate!
The other evidence on which Holmgren relies is Dr Llewellyn stating that he was woken up by a police constable at 'around four o'clock'. On this occasion, Holmgren does include the qualifying word 'around' which means that it might easily have been 3.50 or 3.55. Indeed, Holmgren relies on a statement of the doctor reported in a newspaper which says that he was woken up 'at about five minutes to four' which shows that even Holmgren accepts that 'around four o'clock' can easily be five minutes away from that time. But we're back to the word 'about' again. Holmgren takes it literally as being that the doctor must have been woken up at exactly 3.55. Given that the doctor lived about two minutes walk from the murder site, then taking the timing literally, Thain must have set off from Bucks Row to wake him at 3.53. If Neil found the body at 3.47, Holmgren would say that leaves a six minute gap in the timing between the discovery and Thain being sent off to fetch the doctor. But, of course, it doesn't leave any gap if the doctor was woken up at 3.52 or 3.53, meaning that Thain set off at 3.50 or 3.51 (and that's not including the time it would have taken Thain to have informed the doctor's servant that he needed to wake the doctor). There is no reason why Neil couldn't have taken three or four minutes to have examined the body of Nichols and look around before Thain appeared (and, as Holmgren notes, Thain would himself have taken about a minute to walk from Brady Street up to where the body lay). Indeed, we don't have any kind of timing for the gap between Neil finding the body and Thain's appearance. Nor can we say with any certainty whether Neil and Thain had a discussion about the apparent murder before Thain ran off to fetch the doctor.
Above all, though, we have no information about how Dr Llewelyn fixed the time that he was woken up. What if he looked at a clock which was running a few minutes slow, or fast? We just don't know. It's why this entire business is a fool's errand; one which only someone who is used to living in a modern world, where exact times are generally more accurately known, would attempt.
Truly, it's a joke to try and match up all these estimated timings to fix a precise timeline to within minutes. You just can't do it. The police would have had trouble in 1888 but today it's simply impossible and a complete waste of time. About 3.30 could truly and easily mean any time fifteen minutes either side, the same for about 3.45 and about 4.00. Indeed, depending on the circumstances, the inaccuracy could be even greater than that. People can be hours out in their estimates, so being a few minutes out is not surprising.
To attempt anything like the exercise Holmgren sets out in his book, you need to know how the relevant witnesses fixed the time and whether any relevant timepieces were tested for accuracy. As this didn't happen in 1888, we can't possibly reconstruct it now. Any feeling that there are five or ten missing minutes can easily be rectified by adjusting the chronology in various directions which will still fit the rough estimates provided by the witnesses.
But the damage all starts with Holmgren falsely claiming that Lechmere said in his testimony that he left his house 'at 3:30'. By not informing his readers that he actually said that it was about this time - so that there is a potentially significant margin of error - he leads them down a crazy rabbit hole where apparent certainties of timing are nothing more than mirages. His failure to note the author of the police report in which a timing of 3.40 is given - surely knowing that his readers might think that Inspector Abberline of all people might have got it right - is unforgiveable.
Every disadvantage to Lechmere is given by Holmgren.
And there's one more false claim made by Holmgren in respect of the timing aspect. This is that the day of the murder was:
'a day when Lechmere was late for work and presumably in a hurry'.
There is no evidence, or even good reason to believe, that when Lechmere left his house that morning he was late for work. He never said so in his evidence. What he did say was that, after having been delayed by about five minutes in looking at the body in Bucks Row, 'I was behind time'. That gives us literally no idea if he was behind time before stopping in Bucks Row.
Holmgren, in his ingenious way, speculates that because one or two newspaper reports wrongly stated that Cross said he left his house at 3.20, this means that he probably said that he normally left his house at that time but did so that morning at 3.30, so that he was running ten minutes late. There is no warrant for this claim and, if that were the case, it must considered surprising that not a single newspaper reported that he said in his evidence that he normally left at one time but, on this day left, at a later time. Surely the most likely explanation is that the single time he mentioned was misheard or mis-reported.
In any event, what Cross believed the time to have been is neither here nor there. Even if he had thought it was 3.40 when he left his house, so that he was running very late, he might have been completely wrong. In reality it might only have been 3.35. That's the problem with basing reconstructions on what witnesses say the time was. There is a huge issue with reliability.
ALIAS
When discussing Lechmere's use of the name 'Cross' at the inquest, Holmgren tells us on page 96 of his book:
'Using an alias was no uncommon thing in the Victorian East End'
Words matter. Holmgren has now planted the idea in the minds of his readers that Lechmere used an alias at the inquest.
What is an alias?
According to the Collins Online Dictionary:
'An alias is a false name, especially one used by a criminal.'
The Oxford Online Dictionary gives the meaning of 'alias' as:
'A false or assumed identity'
So Holmgren has actually planted in his readers' mind that Lechmere was using a FALSE name at the inquest.
He then says:
'There are numerous police reports that call people by two different names and make it clear that although you may be recorded by a specific surname in the registers, you could choose to use another name colloquially'.
This is a bizarre and terribly messy sentence. In the first place, I have no idea what Holmgren means here by 'the registers'. What's he talking about? Secondly, why on earth is he referring to police reports? Police reports will normally be talking about criminals and, of course, criminals frequently uses aliases or false names in order to hide their identity. Thirdly, the issue of Lechmere calling himself 'Cross' at the inquest has nothing to do with someone choosing to use another name 'colloquially'.
Holmgren surely must know better than this. At any time, but especially in the twentieth century, it is possible for someone to have two surnames, both of which are entirely legitimate. They are not aliases but alternative names with no sense of any wrongdoing whatsoever.
We find it today with women who marry but continue to use their maiden surname at work, perhaps because they have developed a professional reputation under that name, while also using their new married name in other contexts. It's both perfectly legal and normal to do this and is not a case of hiding identity. If you were a work colleague of such a woman and were to claim she was using 'an alias' you would probably very quickly get a call down for a chat with HR!
The same is true of someone who is adopted. He or she might be born with one surname - and registered with that name - but is then adopted by a family with a different surname (and even in the twentieth century babies were sometimes just given away to another family rather than legally adopted). So they have two surnames. Which one is their real surname? How can anyone possibly say? If they prefer to use the adopted surname they naturally have every right to do so. Equally, they could use the name they were given at birth. At different times, they might use different names, depending on circumstances.
This is even more true with someone who was born to one father, and is known by their father's surname for some years, but that father leaves or dies so that they are brought up by a stepfather and thus known by a new surname. That boy might decide live the rest of his life with the new surname of his stepfather. Perhaps he hated his birth father. Or vice versa. But confusion has already been caused because for part of his life he's been known by a different surname. It's not a case of that man choosing another name. Both names have been thrown upon him by circumstances.
In legal terms he is perfectly entitled to use either name. But Holmgren doesn't make this clear. He says it's 'not unreasonable to think' that Charles might have taken on the name Cross which is itself a ludicrous way of putting it, but then falsely states that 'he was always registered by the name Lechmere'. That can't be true if he was recorded in the 1861 census as Charles Cross, which he was.
Furthermore, Holmgren says that, from the presence of the name 'Cross' in the 1888 police reports, Lechmere must have 'chosen' not to give his 'real name' to the police and therefore, 'He withheld it, for whatever reason'. This isn't correct for two reasons. Firstly, had he given both names to the police in his statement, there's no reason to think that Abberline and Swanson would have bothered to repeat them both in their summaries, being irrelevant. But the real problem here is that it assumes that there was a need or obligation for Cross to provide the police with both names. There wasn't. If he was known as Cross at Pickfords then he only had to tell the police that his name was Cross. We really don't know if he said in his statement to police that he was also called Lechmere but the point that Holmgren misses and completely fails to inform his readers of is that there was no need for someone with two alternative names to state both those names. One was sufficient for both the police and inquest purposes. He was just a witness to the discovery of the body. His life history and the fact that his father had died when he was young, so that he was brought up by his stepfather, could not have not have been more irrelevant to his discovery of the body.
One other thing. To use the expression 'real name' without putting 'real' in inverted commas gives a totally false impression. Cross was Charles's real name too! It's just that it wasn't the name he was given at birth. But if he used the name Cross in his daily life, including his life at work, then it was a real name. Just as real as Lechmere. The fact of the matter is that we don't have enough data to know whether Charles was known as Cross at work and whether he used this name among friends and acquaintances.
SIGNATURE
Holmgren also attempts to undermine the notion that Charles might have taken on the name 'Cross' by saying:
'around a hundred documents have been found with the Carman giving his name to different authorities, either by having his name signed for him or by signing it himself'.
On page 100, he then says:
'going by the more than one hundred signatures we have, he always called himself Lechmere'
What is a signature?
According to the Oxford English dictionary it is:
'The action of signing one's name; authorization or authentication of a document, letter etc. by signing it. Also: an instance of this.'
AND
'A person's name written (esp. in a distinctive way) so as to authenticate a document, authorize a transaction, or identify oneself as the writer or sender of a letter. Also a distinctive mark or cross serving this purpose.'
Both these definitions involving signing or identifying oneself. It is not something that a third party does.
It's a nonsense for Holmgren to be talking about having a hundred signatures of Charles signing as Lechmere when he defines this to include instances of 'having his name signed for him'.
For anyone who says, 'Ah well, Holmgren is not a native English speaker, we need to make allowances', the fact of the matter is that I picked him up on this on the Forum as long ago as June 2016 and told him that a 'signature' is something that one does oneself. So he is fully aware.
Returning to the subject in January 2017, when I repeated the point, he quibbled and told me that a search on Google of "I will sign for you" brought up thousands of examples.
I then checked and found that these were examples of people signing a document themselves (in their own name), having been requested by someone else to do so, or signing to enable another person to do something or have something. Realizing that he'd blundered, he then changed the search to 'I signed his name' for which he again said there were thousands of hits but it transpired that these mainly about forgeries, fake signatures and cases of fraud (or, if not, about people who physically couldn't sign their own names). I told him in January 2017 that the correct word is 'recorded' so that, if he wanted to make this point, he should be saying that Charles' name had been recorded as 'Lechmere' on one hundred documents, to which he responded that 'I may well be mischiveous (sic) enough to do the exact opposite'. He knows perfectly well, in other words, that using the word 'signature' is incorrect and involves being 'mischievous' yet he decided to continue do so in his book, knowing full well that it was the wrong word to use.
So he knows perfectly well that he can't properly say that there 'a hundred signatures' of Charles Lechmere in circumstances where they are not signatures at all, but simply examples of someone else recording the name of Lechmere on a document. By happy coincidence, though, saying that there are one hundred examples of signatures of the name Lechmere sounds so much more impressive than simply saying there are this many records with the name, which is presumably why Holmgren has stubbornly decided to persist with using this misleading and mischievous word in his book.
But what about these supposed hundred plus examples of Charles calling himself Lechmere or having the name recorded on his behalf? Do they exist?
Well I first heard this number in the 2014 documentary seven years ago. In, fact 119 documents were then mentioned. Since then, no evidence has ever been provided of the existence of these 100+ examples nor has anyone ever explained what they are. In the 2019 book, 'Who was Jack the Ripper?', Ed Stow wrote that, 'We know that in over 100 records of his life (including several in 1888) he called himself Lechmere and never Cross'. Thankfully, Stow, who has a little bit more sense, didn't claim there were 100 signatures but, again, there was no explanation of what these 100 records were.
Why are they being kept a top secret? Why, seven years after the broadcast of the documentary, do we still not know what these records are?
The answer is obvious. The bulk of the 100 records are the electoral registers in which year after year (and possibly multiple times a year) Charles was entered with the name of Lechmere. But this tells us very little. If he was entered once with the name of Lechmere we would expect that to continue throughout his life. It would certainly be extremely odd if, being entered on the electoral role, Charles decided to randomly provide a different surname in future years when the register was being updated.
The fact of the matter is that the 'more than one hundred' examples probably only comprise a very small number of different categories of records. Furthermore, in the case of the electoral registers we don't have 'signatures' of any kind because these are printed records.
Sure there may be some other property and tax records, some school records and, of course, census, birth, marriage and death records which contain the name 'Lechmere', not Cross, but in terms of different categories it is nowhere near the amazing sounding 'hundred records' with which Holmgren and Stow like to blind us all. I strongly suspect there will be less than ten different categories and this is supposed to make us think that Charles never used the name 'Cross' in his life outside of inquests!
As Holmgren knows perfectly well but simply avoids dealing with in his book, the argument against him is that, having been known as Charles Cross while he was a teenager living with his stepfather, he probably started to work for Pickford & Co under the name of Cross and was known to his employer and his work colleagues under that name. Hence, on the two occasions when he appeared as a witness at an inquest, where he was known to be a carman working for Pickfords, he (sensibly) gave the name he used at work
Now, there is no evidence one way or the other to confirm or dispute this but it is entirely conceivable and Holmgren knows it. This would mean that Charles was perfectly entitled to give his name at the inquest as Charles Cross. There would be nothing unusual about it, least of all would there be anything wrong with it. As Holmgren knows, I have found examples of other men of the period with alternative names who used one surname in one context and another surname in another context, which was perfectly normal (as can be seen here, here and here).
Even if Charles was in some way wanting to hide his identity by using his stepfather's name (on the assumption that he had abandoned it), it might simply have been that he didn't want his name associated with the discovery of a gruesome murder. It could be that simple.
There is just nothing suspicious about it that should make us think he was responsible for the murder of Nichols.
I say this even if Lechmere was the murderer. There was simply no obvious advantage to him in giving a different name. The police knew who he was. They had his home address and his employer's name.
Holmgren has to resort to mental gymnastics by which Charles for some speculative reason didn't want his wife to find out that he had discovered the body of Nichols. Presumably, in Holmgren's mind, she would have suspected he'd murdered her. But it's a huge stretch.
The thing is that it was the discovery that Charles Cross was also Charles Lechmere which seems to have thrown suspicion on him in the first place. So people like Holmgren think it can't be abandoned. But it's a terrible and unconvincing point.
APRON
When you thought there was no more bottom of the barrel to scrape, Holmgren, following Ed Stow, manages to find some.
There is some significance apparently in the fact that Cross was wearing his work clothes when he testified at the inquest. Without any evidence, Holmgren tells us it was 'the rule' for 'amateur witnesses' to give evidence in their best clothes. This is a deduction he appears to have made simply because the reporter for the East London Observer (possibly the same person who provided the report for the Daily News) noted in an extended report that Cross 'appeared in court with a rough sack apron on'.
The reporter didn't say there was anything unusual about this, nor was there any hint of criticism of Cross for his attire. It was just noted.
As it happens, this particular reporter wrote a very unusual report of the inquest proceedings that day, one that you simply don't normally find in newspaper reports of inquests for the entire Victorian period. In fact, it's a real shame he didn't continue reporting on all other inquests during the period of the Whitechapel murders because it would have enhanced our knowledge greatly. His reports are full of colour and descriptive details. Thus, we are told (exclusively) that Polly Nichols' father, Edward Walker, was 'an old, grey-headed, and grey bearded man' who came slowly up to the witness table 'with head lowered and hands behind his back', that PC Neil was 'a tall fresh-coloured man, with brown hair and straw coloured moustache' with an 'imperial' bearing, that Dr Llewellyn was 'quiet and sedate', that William Nichols attended the mortuary wearing 'a long black coat, with a black tie, trousers of dark material, and a tall silk hat', and was carrying an umbrella, that Inspector Spratling was 'a keen eyed man with iron-grey hair and beard, dressed in the regulation blue of the force', that Henry Tomkins was 'a rough looking man', that Emily Holland wore 'a brown dress, with a dolman and bonnet' and that Mary Ann Monk was 'a young woman with a flushed face and a haughty air, who wore a long grey ulster'.
These descriptions are there to add colour to the report, not to make the point that there was something unusual going on. Perhaps Holmgren thinks that it was unusual for someone to carry an umbrella to the mortuary as Edward Walker did or for a police inspector to appear at an inquest wearing the regulation blue uniform. If not, why is the description of Cross' outfit singled out by Holmgren as supposedly being unusual?
If you're wondering how Cross, who was a carman, wearing a carman's outfit, can possibly point to his guilt I'm not even going to bother to tell you. Read the book if you're in any way interested in the ludicrous suggestion. All I'm going to say is that if Cross had been described as being dressed in his best clothes, Holmgren would surely have said that there was something funny about this and that Cross was doing his best to seem like a respectable person.
LIGHT
There is one other point in relation to the blood evidence that I'd like to comment on briefly.
On page 79 of his book, Holmgren says that, if there had been any blood visible on the ground when Lechmere and Paul were examining the body of Nichols, they would 'arguably' have been able to see it. And boy it's a tenuous argument.
Of course, Holmgren wants to say that there was no blood there at the time, because Nichols had only very recently been killed, so the fact that the two men didn't see any blood is meant to indicate that it's because it wasn't there, not because it was too dark for them to possibly do so.
The problem for him is that Paul was asked if he could see blood and he said he could not but that 'it was very dark'. Lechmere also made the point that he couldn't see if the woman's throat was cut because 'the night was very dark'. Both men corroborate each other in this respect.
To try and show that there was sufficient light, Holmgren tells us the carmen could see Polly's bonnet on the ground and that Paul could see that her clothes were pulled up to her stomach. But it's ludicrous to suggest that because they could see this they would have been able to see what even Holmgren admits would have been 'dark blood' on the ground. Holmgren says that, 'What light there was would have been reflected in the surface of the blood', which is just nonsense of the highest order. Without a lantern, as Neil possessed, in the middle of the night, where Lechmere originally thought the body of Polly was a tarpaulin, any blood would have been all but invisible.
CARMEN
A big problem for Holmgren is that, if Lechmere lied to Mizen about there being a policeman in Bucks Row, Robert Paul must have heard the lie. So, while he never makes it entirely clear what he is saying, Holmgren unconvincingly tries to twist the evidence so that it shows that only Lechmere spoke to Mizen.
The problem is that Mizen expressly confirmed in his evidence that there was 'another man in company' with Lechmere when he was informed of the existence of the constable. Lechmere in his evidence says that he was with Paul when he spoke to Mizen and that Paul spoke to the constable. Paul says that he and Lechmere 'walked on together until they met a policeman...and told him what they had seen'. All three witnesses therefore agree on this point! When summing up, the coroner said:
'The carmen reported the circumstances to a constable...'
That's both of them!
CLANG!
Regarding the 1876 inquest into the death of Walter Williams, Holmgren says on page 98 of his book.
'we can see that four out of the six witnesses who are quoted in the article apparently stated their addresses at the inquiry'.
With that, Mr Holmgren throws Gary Barnett under the bus! Just compare the above with what Barnett wrote on JTR Forums on 13 October 2017 when he said:
'It's strange that an address was given for every other witness but the carman's was omitted'.
When I called him out on this in Crossing the Line he got very angry and seemed to suggest that I was wrong in challenging that statement. So it's good to see that Holmgren agrees with me! An address was NOT given 'for every other witness'. It was just sloppiness on Barnett's part in saying this. Only four out of six witnesses had their addresses published in the local press reports of the inquest.
Mind you, no doubt if we were to find a newspaper from 1876 in which Cross's address was included, we would be told by Holmgren that the reporter obtained it by asking the clerk!
Holmgren says:
'the papers would always try to write the address'
There is no evidence provided of what the papers would 'always try' to do and they certainly did not, in fact, always do so. It didn't even happen in respect of the inquests into the Whitechapel murders and Holmgren is oblivious to the evidence I presented in Crossing the Line showing conclusively that addresses stated by witnesses in court (either at an inquest or police court proceedings) were not always published in newspaper reports of those inquests and that there was inconsistency surrounding such publication.
Holmgren also says:
'the witnesses would always be asked to give their names, addresses and occupations'.
Right, so he must be accepting that Cross was asked his name and address and gave it!
Yet, because only the Star reported Cross' name, Holmgren bizarrely concludes that Cross withheld his address from the coroner. But he doesn't consider one obvious explanation (which I mentioned in my 'Crossing the Line' article from September 2019) namely that the address stated by Cross was inaudible to all reporters present and the Star reporter simply asked the clerk to confirm what Cross had said. That is way way more likely than Cross refusing to give his address and the Star reporter getting it instead from the clerk. But it may just be a simple matter of the Star reporter being familiar with Doveton Street and thus being able to understand what Cross was saying, which the other reporters in the room couldn't. It's certainly odd, isn't it, that the Star reporter was so keen to get Cross' address yet didn't bother to include his first name in his report nor his middle name, both of which he clearly stated in his evidence, simply calling him 'Carman Cross'?
Holmgren also claims that Cross 'seems to have withheld his address' at the 1876 inquest. This is palpable nonsense. How can one possibly draw such a conclusion from a newspaper report? There is no warrant to say he withheld anything. We would need to see the deposition in order to know whether he stated his address or not but if, in the unlikely event that it wasn't recorded, it can only mean he wasn't asked. There is simply no chance that Cross was asked for his address and refused to give it.
AFTER THE BREAKING POINT
Later in his book, after the breaking point, Holmgren attempts to place reliance on something said by James Scobie in the 2014 documentary about Lechmere having a prima facie case to answer. Unfortunately, it is now known that Scobie was given inaccurate information on which to base his opinion.
Needless to say, the briefing note given to Scobie by the documentary team has never been released for public inspection but some of it could be glimpsed onscreen. It reveals that Scobie was told two things that weren't true. The first is that Lechmere was reported as having said at the inquest that he left his home at 3.30, omitting the important qualifying word 'about'. The second, quite unbelievably, is that Lechmere appeared to have initially given another time in his inquest evidence for when he left his house (i.e. 3.20), when this is nothing more than a speculative assumption which is certainly not apparent to anyone looking objectively at the matter.
In other words, Scobie was not only being told that Lechmere said that he left his house at a time which should have meant that he arrived at the murder scene in Bucks Row at 3.37 - yet was still there when Paul entered the street at 3.45 - but he was also being told that Lechmere had apparently changed his evidence about the time he left his home, having initially stated it was ten minutes earlier, thus not only making him look shifty but also making the potential gap for him to have murdered Nichols even longer. In the documentary, Scobie said of Lechmere, 'the timings really hurt him' and that he had 'never given a proper answer' as to what he was doing that morning and was, for that reason, 'behaving in a way that was suspicious' but we now know that the barrister was given false and misleading information about those timings, meaning that his opinion is of no value.
When I confronted Holmgren with this on the Casebook Forum at a time when it was possible to confront authors with such things (but now prohibited) he blustered, and speculated unconvincingly and somewhat ludicrously that there might have been 'a later passage' in the briefing note provided to Scobie in which it was said that 'the timings must be looked on with less certainty'. Perhaps he thought that the authors of the briefing note were deliberately trying to confuse Scobie! If they were going to qualify the statement that Lechmere left his house at 3.30 they would obviously have done at the time they made the statement. They wouldn't have done it in another part of the document.
ALONE
On the plus side, Holmgren HAS avoided saying that Lechmere was 'found alone' with Nichols, thus giving the appearance of Lechmere having been caught red handed. This was something he often said on the Forum but isn't included in the book. It's one of the few concessions to his critics that he's made.
Yet, that's not enough to demonstrate to me that he is a credible and trustworthy author whose opinions are worth reading. I haven't read the section of Holmgren's book in which he deals with the similarities between the Ripper murders and the torso murders. Frankly, I don't know enough about the subject to be able form any conclusions on it. And from what I've read in Holmgren's posts about medical matters (especially in respect of the estimated time of Chapman's death) I'm certain he doesn't either, but, most importantly, when I see how he uses words to subtly change meanings, it makes me lose trust in him as an author, in very much the same way as I lost trust in Michael Hawley when reading his most recent book. If I can't trust an author when it comes to those parts of the book I know something about then I certainly can't trust him when it comes to the parts of the book about which I know little or nothing. So I can't tell you if he makes a good case that the Ripper is also the torso murderer. All I can tell you is that with respect to the case of Mary Ann Nichols, Holmgren makes a very poor case that Lechmere was, or might have been, her murderer.
Nevertheless, since watching the 2014 documentary, I have always and consistently been of the opinion that Lechmere is a reasonable candidate. Anyone who discovers a dead body should be treated by investigators as a suspect. That really shouldn't need to be stated. It's obvious. In this case, it's not inconceivable that Lechmere felt trapped by the arrival of Paul and stepped away from the woman he was in the process of murdering to pretend he'd just discovered the body. If Mizen's evidence was accurate, the police officer was told something that wasn't true by Lechmere, which creates suspicion. The problem for us in determining Lechmere's guilt is that there is a plausible reason why Lechmere might have told a lie on this particular issue namely that, having been delayed by the discovery of the body, he was late for work (as was Paul) and didn't want to have to accompany Mizen back into Bucks Row. Hence, he told Mizen that he was passing on a message from another constable.
One can see that if Lechmere was the murderer, he might well have left his house before 3.30am in order to give himself time to do some murdering and this might have caused him a problem at the inquest. If he HAD left home at exactly 3.30, but especially if it was earlier than this, his wife and others within 22 Doveton Street might have known it (assuming there was an accurate clock in the house), which might have raised questions as to how he hadn't progressed further in his walk to work than Bucks Row by 3.45 but the evidence as it exists doesn't strike me as in any way suspicious.
What we have here is what we might want to call another Hawley situation. Tumblety is a decent candidate but, as we know, Hawley makes a number of ridiculous arguments to support his candidature. It's the same with Hainsworth and Druitt. And it's the same with Holmgren and Lechmere. Why tell us fairy tales about the blood evidence when we already know from a forensic pathology expert that blood can easily ooze from a body for twenty minutes after death, meaning that it's absurd to find anything suspicious as against Lechmere in the oozing? Why tell us fairy tales about '100 signatures' in the name of Lechmere, especially while refusing to reveal what they are? Why omit the word 'about' from Lechmere's evidence and create a fairy tale of a supposed major gap in timings? All these things, which Holmgren seems to term as 'mischievous' but which might well be regarded as devious, spoil the argument completely. There is surely another way to tell the story without resorting to sophistry. It's unnecessary and self-defeating.
'Cutting Point' by Christer Holmgren is available from Amazon for £20.49 in hardcover or £16.10 in paperback here.
LORD ORSAM
First published: 20 March 2021
Republished with amendments 21 December 2023